Why can't people be taught proper english as thier second language

[Crasherfromwayback]

why is it asians and others i'm sure learn a language and leave out crucial bits....


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How's your Cantonese Noodle Knob?

I've got a lovely wee Chinese flatmate, she's only been here for three years.
Her grasp of the English lanuage is already better than yours.

[Swoop]

I want you to give back my money I give to you for your sick mum. Lily from China

It's all above board. The VFR restoration has the highest importance! Nothing to see here! Move along!

Seen 'worse' spelling from those whose first language is English.

Most of this thread requires a thorough beating with a dictionary!

[kro]

How many languages do you speak SkidMark?.

[skidMark]

What, like capital letters, brackets and question marks? I take it you're not a native English speaker or you never went to school yourself?
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So you won't mind me saying you're a complete fuckwit then?

i don't give a shit about grammer...do you say commars and full stops out loud in real life?, i mean leaving in all the words is a great thing to do

[skidMark]

i guess it's just the way they are taught i dunno all she had to do was put in the simple words though i wasnt digging at her as such just wondering why they are taught in a way that little words get left out, do they not have words similar in thier language that they can put into english, is that why they are not there.

i was not digging into asian people whatsoever but just wondering why the above stated is not put into place.

and my second language is german.

did it for 3 years back in school....but i stopped using it and have forgotten most of it now, sucks really.

i should've done japanese lol.

[skidMark]

English is apparantly one of the hardest languages to learn with all the irregular verbs, odd pluralisations and other bizarre parts of speech.

the answer i was looking for

thankingyou you very muchly.

[Dave Lobster]

How many languages do you speak SkidMark?.

I speak enough languages to survive in an English speaking nation.

If I moved to a Spanish speaking nation, I would learn Spanish.

If I moved to a Chinese speaking nation, I would learn Chinese.

Why do people move here without bothering to learn the language?

[Grahameeboy]

I speak enough languages to survive in an English speaking nation.

If I moved to a Spanish speaking nation, I would learn Spanish.

Spanish is not that easy because the grammar does not run like English....like 'I go to the shops' is "The shops I go to' or thereabouts...but would you learn to speak first or learn as you got there remembering that English may well be a second language for a lot of Spaniards so you could easily get by compared to an Asian moving here for eg.

If I moved to a Chinese speaking nation, I would learn Chinese.

Probably quite difficult which is why they struggle with English

Why do people move here without bothering to learn the language?

They don't necessarily move here because of the language. Like a lot of immigrants, Brits included, they tend to move to areas where their own kind live so language is not immediately important, however, I had to prove I could speak English so I imagine they have to speak some English but learning to speak English in a classroom and then understanding English in the real world is quite different.

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[Dave Lobster]

Like a lot of immigrants, Brits included, they tend to move to areas where their own kind live

Strange.. I've not met any other ex brits where I live. If I'd have wanted to live surrounded by brits, I'd have moved to Spain!

[BIGBOSSMAN]

I speak enough languages to survive in an English speaking nation.

If I moved to a Spanish speaking nation, I would learn Spanish.

If I moved to a Chinese speaking nation, I would learn Chinese.

Why do people move here without bothering to learn the language?

Fair call, but you'd hardly expect immigrants to arrive armed with our peculiar 'brand' of the English language, with its jingoisms and slang - kiwiana et al.
Maybe she's still in the throes of getting to grips with English, and needs a spotty young biker to help her with his mother tongue

[Grahameeboy]

Strange.. I've not met any other ex brits where I live. If I'd have wanted to live surrounded by brits, I'd have moved to Spain!

Haha....Devonport is full of them......was just illustrating...a lot of South Africans live Browns Bay way.....not saying they all stick together, just making a point...............troller

Anyway I have not met an ex Brits either.......

So if you move to Spain you will not have to learn Spanish............thanks dfor confirming my point

[Dave Lobster]

So if you move to Spain you will not have to learn Spanish............thanks dfor confirming my point

Only if I was a vermin brit who'd sold his ex council house.. No thanks.

And I wont be moving to Devonport now..

[McJim]

I dunno about the rest of you immigrants but I continually laugh my arse off when kiwis pop out to the local milk products manufacturing plant to buy a pack of smokes? WTF?

Seriously folks a Dairy is a big factory with 'Fonterra' written on the side.

The 'Dairys' have a name in the english language. It's called a shop. Difficult I know but practice and you'll get it eventually.

Mark - you're a bit intolerant given your own shortcomings. I have shortcomings too but I am not so intolerant.

Grow up please.

[Sanx]

As we're on the subject of the English language, here's a little trivia question for y'all:

What's the only word in the English language that changes pronounciation when you capitalise the first letter?

And translated for skidMark:

whats theonly wrd in the english langauge dat changes pronun ... pronoin pronouns ... how it sounds when u make the fisrt letter big

[McJim]

As we're on the subject of the English language, here's a little trivia question for y'all:

What's the only word in the English language that changes pronounciation when you capitalise the first letter?

And translated for skidMark:

whats theonly wrd in the english langauge dat changes pronun ... pronoin pronouns ... how it sounds when u make the fisrt letter big

scone (Skonn) Scone (Scoone)...or is there another?