Navy's frigates break down at sea.

**Swoop** · 27th April 2007, 10:58

Interesting. The Navy would be the best to diagnose the problem's with the vessel. The engine cutting out unexpectedly though... I can help them with that one!!!

Honda electrical systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The navy's two warships, the Anzac frigates Te Kaha and Te Mana, both broke down at sea earlier this year, it has been revealed.

Both ships had engine problems and it is also believed the navy's supply ship, the tanker HMNZS Endeavour, had an engine breakdown which left it drifting briefly in the Hauraki Gulf last month.

Te Mana had problems with its diesel engines during exercises as it crossed the Tasman to Sydney with its sister ship.

The navy said Te Mana could not use its diesel engines, designed to allow the ship to cruise at a lower economical speed, and had to run its gas turbine.

The gas turbine is a marine version of the engines fitted to a Boeing 747 jumbo jet and allows short, high-speed sprints at more than 27 knots.

The following month Te Kaha had an engine failure as it was about to undertake a replenishment at sea with Endeavour in the Hauraki Gulf.

The engine failure put "an abrupt halt to proceedings" and the frigate broke off the replenishment and stayed at sea an extra night.

The navy could not say what caused the problems.

**SARGE** · 27th April 2007, 11:05

Originally Posted by Swoop

The navy could not say what caused the problems.

i know the problem ...

according to the recruiting ad's i have seen on TV .. the navy is about playing Video Games, touch Rugby and partying in Thailand ..

maybe they need to recruit a few engineers

or maybe stop the huge dole payments and start maintaining the infrastructure...

**ManDownUnder** · 27th April 2007, 11:17

LOLOL... I can see it now. WWIII, somewhere in the mid Pacific.

"Vot did zat lassst massage zay? Give us anuzzer day ve need to restart ze boat?"

"Just bung ze torpeedo up zer arss like ze last time!"

**SARGE** · 27th April 2007, 11:21

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

LOLOL... I can see it now. WWIII, somewhere in the mid Pacific.

"Vot did zat lassst massage zay? Give us anuzzer day ve need to restart ze boat?"

"Just bung ze torpeedo up zer arss like ze last time!"

10 yadda yadda

**ManDownUnder** · 27th April 2007, 11:24

Originally Posted by SARGE

10 yadda yadda

Cool.... 75,000 Amp rated jumper leads!

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 27th April 2007, 11:24

Being Ex-Navy (and serving on the older Leander Class Frigates) they break down... The stresses involved on the engines and the ship itself are... well high... even after they just come out of a maintenance routine or even a refit. Shit happens.

Though it doesn't help that our Government made cut backs on these vessels

**Swoop** · 27th April 2007, 11:32

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

(and serving on the older Leander Class Frigates)

Spent a shit-load of time working on them myself. Oh what fun...

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

Though it doesn't help that our Government made cut backs on these vessels

How unusual... Just like the Waikato. Was able to detect a missile, could track it coming at the ship, could even film the missile approaching...
Just couldn't shoot it down.

**SARGE** · 27th April 2007, 11:34

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

Being Ex-Navy (and serving on the older Leander Class Frigates) they break down... The stresses involved on the engines and the ship itself are... well high... even after they just come out of a maintenance routine or even a refit. Shit happens.

Though it doesn't help that our Government made cut backs on these vessels

how old is the present fleet by the way ?.. are they second hand stuff ? ( being serious)

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 11:36

What exactly do we need friggen frigates for anyway when the invasion is actually happening at our airports. Maybe they should dry stack them there.

**SARGE** · 27th April 2007, 11:46

Originally Posted by Finn

What exactly do we need friggen frigates for anyway when the invasion is actually happening at our airports. Maybe they should dry stack them there.

Uncle Helen has gutted the RNZ Air Force .. why not the Navy?

**ManDownUnder** · 27th April 2007, 11:52

Originally Posted by SARGE

how old is the present fleet by the way ?.. are they second hand stuff ? ( being serious)

No. The ANZAC Frigates have been built to spec over the last 10 years or so? I can't recall how many were ordered etc but they are new. And thoroughly tested...

Tui anyone?

On the bright side SARGE - picking up on a comment earlier... the video games on board would keep the crew happy and we'd WASTE anyone at World of Warcraft (or whatever the fuck) if it came to that.

Tis a sad state of affairs but then to put it in context we're a country of 4 million people. It's tough to support a full Army, Air Force and Navy on a population the Size of Sydney, or downtown Houston.

**Finn** · 27th April 2007, 11:58

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Tis a sad state of affairs but then to put it in context we're a country of 4 million people. It's tough to support a full Army, Air Force and Navy on a population the Size of Sydney, or downtown Houston.

We must stop using this an an excuse. Sweden only has 8 million people and by comparison could probably level Australia in a cuppla days.

What you meant to say is that we are an isolated island nation of cow and sheep growers who play rugby and throw money at stupid ideas, never amounting to anything of significance on the world stage, hence a poor nation not capable of a sustainable defense force.

**SARGE** · 27th April 2007, 11:59

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

No. The ANZAC Frigates have been built to spec over the last 10 years or so? I can't recall how many were ordered etc but they are new. And thoroughly tested...

Tui anyone?

On the bright side SARGE - picking up on a comment earlier... the video games on board would keep the crew happy and we'd WASTE anyone at World of Warcraft (or whatever the fuck) if it came to that.

Tis a sad state of affairs but then to put it in context we're a country of 4 million people. It's tough to support a full Army, Air Force and Navy on a population the Size of Sydney, or downtown Houston.

yea .. and when the Tamul Tigers roll down.. or Al Qeada/ Hezbolla rises up from Stoddard road.. we can call the NZ Police right ?

might be time to rethink NZ's relationship with the US Navy and have a few CBG's stationed not far away