Nothing to do with bikes but...

[jrandom]

There'll be a way. You'll probably have to rip it and make a new CD, though.

These so-called CD's *aren't*. You see, they implement 'copy protection' by deliberately including encoding errors in the data, so that players which actually follow the standard, check the validity of the Reed-Solomon encoding on the PCM data or whatever they're supposed to do, will reject them as invalid media.

Only players (typically older ones) that have 'dumber' decoding logic and accept stuff that isn't standards-compliant will play the so-called 'copy protected' CDs.

Look closely. The standard 'Compact Disc' logo should be absent from the one you're having trouble with. They're not allowed to put it on stuff that isn't actually a 'CD' (ie, doesn't comply with the standard).

[badlieutenant]

I havnt tried it for ripping copyprotected cd's but winamp 5 is working out for me. I think you can take cd's like that back to the store and get either a standard copy (if availible) or you could try downloading off the net to "backup" your copy.
btw if you are ripping it set your bit rate high. min 192kb preferably with vbr aswell (varible bitrate) so that when you re-encode back to cda its still good quality. also try making a copy using alcohol 120% and if you can get another prog called a-ray which wil determine the copyprotection needed to overcome for alcohol120.
Suks that you have to go thru all this shiet for something you payed for. I have leeched a few mp3's but cant be bothered with the viruses that come with them most of the time, crap quality alot of the time and never leech NZ artists. NZ's population is small and our music is so good Id rather hear more of it than listen to generic pop pumped out from overseas. I think there was a study recently that showed most NZ's dont think its too bad a thing to download overseas music but that its very "not kewl" to leech NZ artists.

[moko]

Slightly OT: Can anyone else think of an industry that can get away with automatically accusing every customer of being a thief?

The T.V. licence people over here cant get their heads around the fact that not everyone has a t.v. I spoke to the landlord of one of the flats in my block that had been empty for a few months and there were 5 or 6 letters from these dorks asking why the "occupier" didn`t have a t.v. licence then varying degrees of threat,the latest one stating that an inspector would be calling round.

[Blackbird]

"I'll get by with a little help from my friends" - and I did!

I used A-Ray to see what the anti-copy device was, then used Alcohol 120% to do the copy. Stuffed it up first time and it worked perfectly on the second try. Not only do I have a CD that works in the car, but I've learned a whole heap of new stuff in the process!

Beers all round for anyone passing through Coromandel at the weekends!

Thanks everyone for your great help. :spudwave:

Geoff

[toads]

"I'll get by with a little help from my friends" - and I did!

I used A-Ray to see what the anti-copy device was, then used Alcohol 120% to do the copy. Stuffed it up first time and it worked perfectly on the second try. Not only do I have a CD that works in the car, but I've learned a whole heap of new stuff in the process!

Beers all round for anyone passing through Coromandel at the weekends!

Thanks everyone for your great help. :spudwave:

Geoff

Alcohol 120% is an excellent program for other other copyright issues with data cd's too glad you got it sorted, I hate the copyright thing, backup cd's are pretty essential I think.

[Blakamin]

Alcohol 120% is an excellent program for other other copyright issues with data cd's too glad you got it sorted, I hate the copyright thing, backup cd's are pretty essential I think.

I forgot about that one... i normally use it for data , but i've never made an audio cd with it

[badlieutenant]

just a thought but before you throw away old cd-rom drives or even dvd drives you may want to keep a hold of them, just in case. Newer drives look for watermarks on some cd's and dvd's but older ones havnt got it built in. Ive backup a few cd-s using older drives that couldnt be done with the newer ones.
And you can also get around the dvd issues (multiregion etc) the same way. Ive been told (and windows warns of it) that some dvd's on the 5th region change will have thier firmware (onboard eprom memory) flashed on the last change making them forever locked to that region. Unless you can flash the firmware yourself your stuffed. Older drives have firmware availible on the net to download. Just a thought.

[vifferman]

just a thought but before you throw away old cd-rom drives or even dvd drives you may want to keep a hold of them, just in case. Newer drives look for watermarks on some cd's and dvd's but older ones havnt got it built in. Ive backup a few cd-s using older drives that couldnt be done with the newer ones.
And you can also get around the dvd issues (multiregion etc) the same way. Ive been told (and windows warns of it) that some dvd's on the 5th region change will have thier firmware (onboard eprom memory) flashed on the last change making them forever locked to that region. Unless you can flash the firmware yourself your stuffed. Older drives have firmware availible on the net to download. Just a thought.

This is complete and utter horseshit. Not what you said, badlieutenant - just the fact that we as consumers have to put up with all this crap. Time for a freakin revolution, Man!