Can't get a bloody job, part 2

[SARGE]

I have been out of work since 15 Feb 07. the company i worked for got bought out by a sister company and they cut my department from 15 to 4.. i had only been there for 4 months so naturally, i got the ax.

I saw the response that Beyond got on his thread and since this is down to the wire, i figured WTF??




now i usually play pretty close to the vest and dont let other people get too close ( layover from the military days when you didnt want got get too close to the FNG's..) but its getting to the point where i do not have a choice. I dont normally ask for assistance so this is very difficult for me to do

I have put out 153 CV's get to the interview and even the second interview but it always comes back "OverQualified / the guy we hired had 37 seconds more experience than you did/ some other PC bullshit reason etc"

im sick of it ..i have applied for NOTHING that i am not qualified for.. screw "OverQualified".. better to get someone who knows what the hell they are doing than some fish-head graduate who only knows what he has been spoon-fed for 4 years in class.


im educated, friendly ( to a point.. dont get a big head) well read, intelligent, articulate and have a HUGE life experience . ( ive managed to put 65 years of experience into just over 40)

i have brilliant CV and i interview well... i also have a good work ethic and i show up to work regardless of circumstances ( barring an act of Gawd or a gunshot wound.. even then if i can staunch the bleeding)


those of you who have dealt with me in the past know that i am a no-bullshit kinda guy and i wont sell you something you dont need just to make a sale.. i'd rather sell you something you LOVE and then do it again with repeat business than to have one sale and never see you again. i play well with the corporate world ( i scrub up quite nicely.. i even own more than one tie) Top CS skills and an easy smile top it all off.



for about a month now, just to make ends meet, i have used my considerable size and frightening appearance as well as past life experiences as a bouncer in various pubs/ events in and around the Auckland Area.. heaps of fun but at the end of the day, i am too bloody old to be wrestling around on a beer soaked floor with some pissed fish-head Uni students 2 nights a week.

it is also a bit of an unfair advantage, but the boss keeps me on a short leash to avoid prosecution


I am looking for a sales role .. BDM/ Account Manager/ Rep etc in the advertising industry if possible. also.. as may of you know, i am pretty well versed in all things motorcycle. I also have advanced computer skills, going back to the dawn of the PC era (Personal Computer)

If you are a business owner, HR Manager of a company based in Dorkland, PM me for a CV.. free for a limited time

[Pussy]

Probably a bit far away, but if I hear anything, Sarge, I'll let you know. All the best

[oldrider]

When I read what is potentially your CV, I ask myself, why does he want a job, working for someone else?

Ask yourself, if I won't take a gamble on myself, why should I expect someone else to!

With all that life experience and skill training, why are you not marketing it on your own behalf?

Probably because that's the one bit of training and experience that you lack!

While you are "between jobs" do a course on small business management and keep asking yourself, what have I got to sell and the more you think about it the more likely it is to happen.

What have you got to loose and don't think small, think big! Cheers John.

[SARGE]

When I read what is potentially your CV, I ask myself, why does he want a job, working for someone else?

Ask yourself, if I won't take a gamble on myself, why should I expect someone else to!

With all that life experience and skill training, why are you not marketing it on your own behalf?

Probably because that's the one bit of training and experience that you lack!

While you are "between jobs" do a course on small business management and keep asking yourself, what have I got to sell and the more you think about it the more likely it is to happen.

What have you got to loose and don't think small, think big! Cheers John.

ive run businesses in the past John.. i used to build race V8's as a side gig back home.. i like my work/ life balance though and 7 days a week does not appeal to me at all anymore. besides .. no way in HELL i would want to be a business owner in NZ right now ..

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I use to get the overqualified shit too... what I ended up doing is only put the skills related to the job in question... I am way way over qualified for my present job... but my boss is now finding these extra skills are coming in handy (including many of the skills learnt in the Navy )

Even at the interview hold back saying you can do this and this and that too with my eyes closed while doing this and that sleeping

the trick is to on tell them the skills they need to get the job done nothing more nothing less.

Once you get the job slowly show your other skills to work you way up the ladder... :-)

Something will turn up soon I am sure

[oldrider]

ive run businesses in the past John.. i used to build race V8's as a side gig back home.. i like my work/ life balance though and 7 days a week does not appeal to me at all anymore. besides .. no way in HELL i would want to be a business owner in NZ right now ..

I was trying to give you a put up not a put down, when you get to the stage of being supposedly passed over as many times as you said you have, it can play silly buggers with your mind.

Yes even people with as much self belief as you have and as big as you are can be effected by perceived continuous rejection.

You will probably get a job through someone you know anyway, rather than by application.

It's like looking for your first nooky, seems to take forever and suddenly there you are!

Good luck and hey, great to see you back around here. Cheers John.

[SARGE]

I use to get the overqualified shit too... what I ended up doing is only put the skills related to the job in question... I am way way over qualified for my present job... but my boss is now finding these extra skills are coming in handy (including many of the skills learnt in the Navy )

yea .. i have a few skills i learned in the USMC .. unfortunatly, very little call for what i know in NZ .. theres alway BlackWater i guess .. wife wont be happy though

I was trying to give you a put up not a put down, when you get to the stage of being supposedly passed over as many times as you said you have, it can play silly buggers with your mind.

Yes even people with as much self belief as you have and as big as you are can be effected by perceived continuous rejection.

You will probably get a job through someone you know anyway, rather than by application.

It's like looking for your first nooky, seems to take forever and suddenly there you are!

Good luck and hey, great to see you back around here. Cheers John.

yea John, I know .. I have always respected your take on things and you are right , it IS screwing with my head .. im pissed off, frustrated, cant really justify jumping on the bike for a blast but for some reason, i seem to be smoking MORE now that i really cant afford to


PS... the first MF'er who thinks this is funny gets sold as a target practice dummy to pay for a box of beer and whatever is left over gets sold as cat food.. hows THAT for thinking outside the square and adding value???

[beyond]

Hiya Sarge

Hey, I too don't like laying it out there but desparation, the need to pay the bills means you have to let it all out and it sure helped me on the forum.

I went through 70 applications and had lots of success at interviews too. Not one job offer through the agencies in the end even though some bent over backwards to help me.

In the end it came down to who you know and there are a lot of people willing to help on this forum which is good.

PM sent

[Grahameeboy]

Well Sarge, sorry to hear...take a leaf out of Beyond's situation.......I was out of work for 6 weeks, not long compared to you and ended up getting a job in a completely new industry, less money but nice people and flexibility helps me with my Daughter.............something will turn up matey........

I suppose you want me to organise a bloody ride for you now.........

[SARGE]

most of the agencies i have been through are useless as hair on a q-ball..although Rebecca over at Eclipse is doing ok for me .. said she would hit me with some temp stuff

alternatly.. i could do the rounds at the dairies and Halal takeaways and tell them..

" now .. for $500 a week.. i could make sure THIS dont happen in here" < CRASH>

could be a good living , this Protection racket thing

I suppose you want me to organise a bloody ride for you now.........

nah man .. i couldnt keep up with you guys .. ive only got 16(0) hp

[RantyDave]

the first MF'er who thinks this is funny gets sold as a target practice

I don't think anyone who's ever been unemployed finds it funny. I fucking hated being unemployed. The worst thing about it is having dubiously competent halfwits decide that *you* can't have the job. I ended up starting my own company, but that was at the other end of a career, as it were. I'd got really used to being skint by then as well.

Sucks, man. I'll keep my eyes open.

Dave

[jtzzr]

Can`t think of anyone that can help at the moment( I know it does`nt help ) but will keep my ears and eyes open. Best of luck to ya Sarge , something will turn up for you mate.

[Sniper]

Fuck dude, I knew it was bad

I keep you in my thoughts and (when I do) prayers. I wish you all the best dude. I wish I could say I knew how you felt, but my only experience is when Dad had this problem when we came to NZ.

Fuck it, how about I move to Auckland and we start a security consultancy company?

You know where I am mate. You are a A+ character in my book and I can only hope I will be able to help out the moment you ask.

I second the motion, anyone who thinks this thread is funny is asking for it...

[SARGE]

Fuck dude, I knew it was bad

I keep you in my thoughts and (when I do) prayers. I wish you all the best dude. I wish I could say I knew how you felt, but my only experience is when Dad had this problem when we came to NZ.

Fuck it, how about I move to Auckland and we start a security consultancy company?

You know where I am mate. You are a A+ character in my book and I can only hope I will be able to help out the moment you ask.

I second the motion, anyone who thinks this thread is funny is asking for it...

i just got a rather un-funny PM from some air thief earlier is why i added that .. no i wont name and shame ... he knows who he is and he knows i know who he is ..

nuff said karma sees all ( my middle name is Karma btw)

the problem i deal with is some ratbag 25 year old suit telling me im not the guy for the job .. hell .. i have shoes older than most of them and a family to feed.. overqualified my ass.. i'll get bored too easy he says .. i dont have NZ experience he says .. hell.. i used to pretty much RUN radio stations back home and he's afraid im inexperienced .. the @#$%^@#$%^ JOB DESCRIPTION IS THE FREAKING SAME!!!


i was 2ic of a Marine Rifle Platoon.. only guy i answered to was my Lieutenant ( pronounced LOO-TEN- ANT).. i was responsible for bullets, blankets, bandages and beans for 60 high strung individuals from all walks of like .. leading them into Grenada and other shit holes cant be any harder than making sure the sales reports are on the bosses desk by 9 am can they?

fuck me

i had one guy bring up my eye ( or the lack thereof.). said when you are out representing us, how will you deal with it if and when someone brings up your injury?"

ill just tell them i was running with scissors and if he wasnt comfortable with it we have a hunchback Dwarf with a harelip back at the office i can send out if he would prefer it .. ( i was well past even wanting that gig at that point)


in through the mouth out through the nose


no .. im not stressed .. why?

[imdying]

From what you posted, it sounds like you need a job in a Harley shop.