Wanganui street races

**Expert** · 11th November 2007, 12:57

I just heard a rumour that wnganui motocycle club are flying in, that includes bikes and riders, six australian super-moto riders to compete at the boxing day races against the locals.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with a bit of competition and it should be a laff watching them get their collective asses kicked by the nz lads but doesn't charity start at home? Nobody is offering to help out local talent, riders who are travelling up from the south island say.
What's going on here? Is this true or is someone just blowing smoke up my arse?

**Sketchy_Racer** · 11th November 2007, 12:59

I have no idea about that but I agree with helping our own out first.

But otherwise it's good that they are bringing some competition over. It should be good

**White trash** · 11th November 2007, 13:03

Might as well seeing as they're turning the street races there into the NZ SuperMoto Nationals.

Combine F1 and F2 and give the motards 2 classes. Pffft........

**tri boy** · 11th November 2007, 13:36

I think the guys organising now have a strong motocross back ground. Could have something to do with it.

The event has changed alot since the days of Don Cosford, and Barbs.
Good Bad Better, buggered if I know. Will leave it to todays racers to decide.
Looking forward to it though.

**DEATH_INC.** · 11th November 2007, 13:50

By bringing in some international competition they are helping our guys, gives 'em a measuring stick.....but I dunno about filling the raceday with 'tards, there must be some supersport and superstock guys that'd come over too....

**Kickaha** · 11th November 2007, 15:22

Originally Posted by White trash

Might as well seeing as they're turning the street races there into the NZ SuperMoto Nationals.

Combine F1 and F2 and give the motards 2 classes. Pffft........

You can try emailing them to express your displeasure but of the 3 people I know that tried that last year not one was given the courtesy of a reply

If it wasn't for the fact I'm finally getting a run on a sidecar there I wouldn't bother going back except as a spectator

**Clivoris** · 11th November 2007, 16:18

Sounds like some risky changes going on there alright. No classic Side-cars? Are F1 and F2 really being combined? Bears?

**White trash** · 11th November 2007, 16:42

Really really being combined mate. New Zealands premier classes lumped in together. Becoming a bit of a joke actually.

**cowpoos** · 11th November 2007, 16:58

Originally Posted by White trash

Really really being combined mate. New Zealands premier classes lumped in together. Becoming a bit of a joke actually.

be stink for those that don't get to race because they don't make max grid numbers...in F1/f2

**Sully60** · 11th November 2007, 17:38

Originally Posted by White trash

Really really being combined mate. New Zealands premier classes lumped in together. Becoming a bit of a joke actually.

+1

It's a shame but if the club running the show call the shots, but what can you do? I remember 2003? when they didn't run F3 and did the stoopid Robert Holden, stop, start fiasco that only got worse at Paeroa. People wrote open letters to the club at the time and next year it was back to how we know it.

I know from my minimal club participation that the agenda's of the few can be followed at the expense of what my be considered the greater good. I don't know what input MNZ has in this situation but one would expect that the meeting would not be sanctioned if premier classes are lumped together?

Imagine trying this out at the nationals? Nah, don't think so. I can't imagine the sponsors would appreciate it. If I was putting my money (all $3.25 of it)into an event this big I'd want top billing, maybe this it's the case that this is what the sponsors want also? But how much say do they get?

I think from a spectator point of view (which sucks when you've been out there) last year was pretty good, there's always people who will have some gripe but that's every year, and I say if it ain't broke....

**White trash** · 11th November 2007, 17:52

I think that's what's partially driving their descision mate, Motards being one of the favourites from a spectators point of view.

Quite funny when competitors get all tough and try and staunch each other out from what I remember too......

**Kickaha** · 11th November 2007, 17:58

Originally Posted by Clivoris

No classic Side-cars?

1989 was the cutoff, that was a decision of the organisers not MNZ

classes and race order as follows

1 Formula Three
2 BEARS
3 Post Classic’s
4 Formula Wanganui F1 machines and 600cc Multi Cylinder four Strokes.
5 Super Motard - S2
6 Super Motard – S1
7 Sidecars F1 and F2 machines only, with chassis manufactured post 1989 (No post Classic
sidecars eligible)
8 Robert Holden Memorial
9 Formula Three
10 BEARS
11 Post Classic’s
12 Formula Wanganui
13 Super Motard - S2
14 Super Motard – S1
14 Sidecars’
16 Robert Holden Memorial
17 Sidecar Feature 10
18 Robert Holden Memorial Feature
19 Super Motard Feature

http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...ntry_Forms.pdf

**Clivoris** · 11th November 2007, 18:16

It's true that the organisors can run it how they like, and having only spectated there it's probably a bit rich for me to express too strong an opinion.
Naturally enough I can't let that stop me. A couple of the joys of Wanganui for me are seeing the 600s step up to F1 and compete for that title. I'm guessing that's going to be harder this year. Chose your class and takes your chances. There are always a couple of classic sidecars that keep the more modern boys and girls on their toes as well. Will miss that badly. I'm a fan of the motards as a spectator and it is great that they aren't cutting up F3 bikes anymore, but I found the dirt section to be an anticlaimax. Maybe as our NZ riders get more used to it, it will be more of a spectacle?
It's such a good day out. I suspect that that wont change. Does anyone know whether the Bears will be allowed out to play?
Edit: Just saw the above post. 3 cheers for bears.