The new Pro Twins class

[k14]

wheres your race report ?
how was the 125cc going ?

well no racing to report, apart from 3 warmup laps. Always the way, find out the problem after the last race of the day.

[Tim 39]

ahh the joys of 125's

[Drew]

lets face it guys winning in motorsport is expencive!
so you can either join them or go buy a pair of $100 nike football boots and take up soccer! iv spent $20 grand + of my own hard earnt money on my pro twin sv so far and i am an 18yo apprentice so if i can afford it you should be abel to aswell. you can either spend the money and go out with a fair chance at winning or have a basic bike and go out and have sum fun! and thats all ther is to it

It's cool that you're that dedicated to your racing bro, but the pro twin bike I was on over the weekend cost less than a quarter of what you say you've spent, and I came very close to achaiving the number one spot.
The money some people spend on machinery, would be far better spent attending every track day they can get to further thier riding I believe.

[limbimtimwim]

Guys those of you that can remember back to the eightys or even early nightys will remember the heyday of 250 PRODUCTION racing.

For the day and age, those old 250s were quite a different kettle of fish from the modern 650 twins. They were much closer to proper race bikes than an SV650. I'd think an old 250 would be closer to 'race ready' out of the crate than an SV650.

[johnsv650]

what was wrong ?
friday was a good day to pratice....

[sAsLEX]

what was wrong ?
friday was a good day to pratice....

Water impeller stripped thread, or other way around.......

[GSVR]

It's cool that you're that dedicated to your racing bro, but the pro twin bike I was on over the weekend cost less than a quarter of what you say you've spent, and I came very close to achaiving the number one spot.
The money some people spend on machinery, would be far better spent attending every track day they can get to further thier riding I believe.

OK so for under $5000 you can build a bike just like Darkmans. Theres damaged SV650s going for under 2 grand every other week at Turners (Tui).

Well the bike that won all three races is for sale for only $10500. And after you sell off the K6 frontend and buy some SV rims to replace the marvics you probably have a bike for around 9.

I'm thinking around 9 is a reasonable figure for a ProTwin bike.

[roogazza]

The money some people spend on machinery, would be far better spent attending every track day they can get to further thier riding I believe.

Plus 1 for that comment Drew, You proved what I have been saying for ages, (great first effort by the way !) Get out there and ride the wheels off the things ! That is what Production racing was all about , and for what ? 5 grand !!!!!!! I didn't follow the lap times as they were probably down a bit ? But I 'm willing to bet you'll do well against tougher opponents ? Gaz.

[Drew]

OK so for under $5000 you can build a bike just like Darkmans. Theres damaged SV650s going for under 2 grand every other week at Turners (Tui).

Well the bike that won all three races is for sale for only $10500. And after you sell off the K6 frontend and buy some SV rims to replace the marvics you probably have a bike for around 9.

I'm thinking around 9 is a reasonable figure for a ProTwin bike.

The bike that won comes with a set of standard wheels, and the original front end, but that's beside my point, I WILL win against the better bikes, there is no question in my mind, because ten horse power, even if that does equat to 15% increase, is not enough to make a slower rider win.

It's all about testicular fortitude on the track, (figure of speach of course, the girls can do it too), better lines, better throttle control, and picking the best spot to pass, will prevail over a mere ten horses, even at Manfield, with its three enormous straights.

[evol mas]

The bike that won comes with a set of standard wheels, and the original front end, but that's beside my point, I WILL win against the better bikes, there is no question in my mind, because ten horse power, even if that does equat to 15% increase, is not enough to make a slower rider win.

It's all about testicular fortitude on the track, (figure of speach of course, the girls can do it too), better lines, better throttle control, and picking the best spot to pass, will prevail over a mere ten horses, even at Manfield, with its three enormous straights.

have you ridden at manfeild before?

[Drew]

Yep, I've been around Manfield quite a bit I suppose, three race meetings last year, and about a dozen track days over the years. (Thinking about it, maybe not that many track days, but between five and ten.)

Quite funny how you find better ways to get round a track, even tho you think you know it quite well.

[Tim 39]

people on here were pricing up bikes that were the very best and most competitive you can get and complaining about the price. Price up a very top, competitive 600!! or superbike thats competitive. These rules still mean this is a cheap class to race in, the rules allow racers to turn the cruiser designed bikes into quite good racers, I agree with what the rules allow

[Tim 39]

Guys those of you that can remember back to the eightys or even early nightys will remember the heyday of 250 PRODUCTION racing.
I remember clearly being in grids of 40 or more bikes at NATIONAL level and having to qualify for a or b grade at club level.
The attraction being it was an ENTRY level class with NO modifications bar servicing allowed.
As I understood it this was the INTENT of the new pro twins class

yea and were the factory ignitions etc the factory bikes were running "standard"? I doubt it. I bet the top 5 bikes had big money spent

[FROSTY:Me]

Tim- as long as there is motor sport there will be those that push the boundrys of the rules. THAT IS EXACTLY my point. By having an established available level of modification already its so much easier to cheat
No disrespect dude but I'm one of those thats "been there done that" back in the 250 proddy days.I strongly suspect Glen williams is coming at it from the same angle.

[Tim 39]

MNZ are going to need to be quite strict on the rules, but without being obvious not a great deal can be done to get much of an advantage as far as I know. Power commanders are already legal and so are the cam modifications