How sad is this Labour Government

[Mongoose]

The hairy carpet licker who runs this country pisses me off too mate. Labour have rooted the defence force. Turned the police into a psuedo revenue department. Hard working folk like us deserve a tax break too.

National have pledged to focus less on revenue gathering traffic and more on serious crime. Works for me.

Crickey Dicks, some people are easily pleased
The day a Poli or a political party can say something that is believable is yet to come, both major parties have proved this, just gotta decide who tells the biggest and mostest porkies

[SPman]

Labour have done as many crap things as good things and want to control everyone, National do more crap things than good things and want to control everyone. Act are a pack of wankers who say they dont want to control anybody but want to control everyone. Winstons party is a one man joke...and want to control everybody!. The Greens have some good things going but live mainly in la la land and want to control everyone, Peter Dunne is trying to appeal to everyone and is appealing to no one - and wants to control everyone!

So basically....we're fucked!

[manuboy]

Don't pretend to know that much about politics. And i try no to complain about things i can't control... but there are a couple of minor things i wish would get changed.

1) The amount of tax we pay on top of stuff thats already taxed. eg we pay GST on rates. A tax directly on a tax (or am i wrong?). We pay PAYE, then we pay gst on items that already have a customs levy....jeees!

2) For all the tax we pay, our hospitals / schools / military and roads all SEEM to be barebones items. Where does most of our money actually go?

3) An Aside. John Banks. I'll send somebody a box chocolate fish if they can ensure somehow i never have to see / hear that self obsessed obnoxious w**nker on my box Ever Again. He makes me wanna emigrate.

[wari]

Don't pretend to know that much about politics. And i try no to complain about things i can't control... but there are a couple of minor things i wish would get changed.

1) The amount of tax we pay on top of stuff thats already taxed. eg we pay GST on rates. A tax directly on a tax (or am i wrong?). We pay PAYE, then we pay gst on items that already have a customs levy....jeees!

2) For all the tax we pay, our hospitals / schools / military and roads all SEEM to be barebones items. Where does most of our money actually go?

....

BUtt ... at least they made a 7.4billiun $nz proffit ...

THats only about $2000 per man woman and child ...

THey could do better eh .. . :spudwhat:

I wanna refunde ..

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[k14]

3) An Aside. John Banks. I'll send somebody a box chocolate fish if they can ensure somehow i never have to see / hear that self obsessed obnoxious w**nker on my box Ever Again. He makes me wanna emigrate.

Amen to that, he rides a harley aswell, don't think anything more needs to be said.

[Devil]

1) The amount of tax we pay on top of stuff thats already taxed. eg we pay GST on rates. A tax directly on a tax (or am i wrong?).

That is incorrect.
Rates are not tax. They're a standard fee for services (eg, water, refuse).

[bondagebunny]

is going to stand for Parliament - It time that these wankers were whipped into some sort of shape.

[Blakamin]

That is incorrect.
Rates are not tax. They're a standard fee for services (eg, water, refuse).

Then how come I have to pay to get my bin emptied?... and I've got a bore...

[jrandom]

This thread gets 6/10 on the bondagebunny Troll-O-Meter, indicating that the jrandom keyboard-finger-twitch to its initial post lasted a good couple hundred milliseconds.

Now, for the benefit of some of the subsequent respondents, I can comment, as a 23-year-old sole-income-earning father of two, that not everyone who earns $70,000 or more per year is in a comfortable financial position.

I can also see some wisdom in the idea of handing back tax (whether by reducing income tax rates, or the less-efficient method of taking it, then giving some back later) to the middle-class breeders. A Government does well to view such a step as a long-term investment.

[jrandom]

Then how come I have to pay to get my bin emptied?...

Me too!

*And* the bin lid fell off into the truck this morning, so I have to spend the next week with an open-topped wheelie bin out back before they'll get me another one...

[Storm]

So we all agree all politicians are crooks and we are basically screwed no matter which way we go ?

[jrandom]

So we all agree all politicians are...

A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes?

Yup.

[Lou Girardin]

What/Who replaces them then?
Power corrupts, etc.

[TwoSeven]

On government. I would like to see professional politicians with business experience (in their portfolio field) rather than egos who remain clueless about anything. The current government (both main parties) is way too open to effective lobbying and protection of interests - simply because it doesnt have the knowledge to understand when its being manipulated.

I would like to see discretionary tax, that is - pay tax when you spend (so you pay tax, but get to choose how its paid), with a very minimal pay as you earn (to cover essential services). I dont mind GST as a tax - because I only pay it when I spend money and I get to chose how I pay it (by what I buy). But I'm against paying another 39c in the dollar on top of that (its what I pay when I work) simply because it means I have to labour for 1/4 of the year and receive nothing in return (local services are paid by rates and other indirect user taxes).

Also, if I pay for a private service I should get a discount (but not free) on the public service that I am replacing (should pay something as the contribution to society).

Private sector is way more efficient than public sector (by a factor of 2:1) but needs regulation to define the minimum standard it must conform to and also needs competition without government intervention (as its open to lobbying).

[Ghost Lemur]

A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes?

Yup.

hehe

Have you had a chance to listen to the first new episode yet?

Had me laughing and hanging for more. Not to worry though got my towel.

Keeping slightly (ok incredibly) OT: tried a couple of programs to capture the streaming audio. Both seem to work except there's nothing on the capture. Think it's in my settings somewhere, so I'm going to keep working at it as the first ep will only be online til Thursday. Hopefully I can get it sorted then I'll be assured of future listening enjoyment.