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    Some notable acheivements of Labour, a large increase in public servants, more red tape, more centralised control, dependancy on the state, devolution of the family unit. Determined to bring everyone above average down to the average.

    I prefer personal responsibilty, as in responsibile for your own actions, and a strong family unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil
    That is incorrect.
    Rates are not tax. They're a standard fee for services (eg, water, refuse).
    Hokay, i get ya.. but i just ripped this straight off the council website...

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    "Rates on a property are a property tax and are calculated on the basis of its capital value (rating valuation)."
    This is why i pay more than the guy beside me who hasn't mowed his lawns since Mrs Clark last put out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    What/Who replaces them then?
    Very deep question Lou...I've got an answer for that one!

    It's called the "Millennial reign of Christ" who will rule with a rod of iron!

    Forget putting your confidence in man.

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    Alright once and for fuckin all, can some shrude bastard kindly explain to me how Labour are erroding families?

    How families are now all of a sudden in "danger"? What is it the giving gay's and de facto's rights as far as property split, etc go? How the hell does that have anything to do with a married hetrosexual couple and their children?

    What is it the fact that you precious sparky could go to school with a kid who has two mums or two dad's?? Chances are they probably do (whether they know it or not). I don't see how one has anything whatsoever to do with the other.

    By the way, erroding families? WTF is that, what is it cutting down the number of wife/child beatings that occure on a daily basis in this country? Oh no we can jepodise those poor hetro families, no matter how fucked up, dysfunctional, and down right wrong they are. But a queer couple wanting to make sure if things go west the starting point for the split is enshrined in law (yes I know there's more to it, legal next of kin, other things hetro couples take for granted, etc) and Oh Noes the moral minority start jumping up and down about the errosion of the family unit....

    I'm sorry but I just don't get it. Must be a thickie...


    Note: I'm not a "voter", but I was damn glad that we had the PM we have when things started in Iraq. If it had been English in there he would of just been another Blair/Howard lackie. Took a woman with balls to stand up and say "go fuck yourselves*"

    *- In diplomatic terms anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur
    Alright once and for fuckin all, can some shrude bastard kindly explain to me how Labour are erroding families?

    How families are now all of a sudden in "danger"? What is it the giving gay's and de facto's rights as far as property split, etc go? How the hell does that have anything to do with a married hetrosexual couple and their children?

    What is it the fact that you precious sparky could go to school with a kid who has two mums or two dad's?? Chances are they probably do (whether they know it or not). I don't see how one has anything whatsoever to do with the other.

    By the way, erroding families? WTF is that, what is it cutting down the number of wife/child beatings that occure on a daily basis in this country? Oh no we can jepodise those poor hetro families, no matter how fucked up, dysfunctional, and down right wrong they are. But a queer couple wanting to make sure if things go west the starting point for the split is enshrined in law (yes I know there's more to it, legal next of kin, other things hetro couples take for granted, etc) and Oh Noes the moral minority start jumping up and down about the errosion of the family unit....

    I'm sorry but I just don't get it. Must be a thickie...


    Note: I'm not a "voter", but I was damn glad that we had the PM we have when things started in Iraq. If it had been English in there he would of just been another Blair/Howard lackie. Took a woman with balls to stand up and say "go fuck yourselves*"

    *- In diplomatic terms anyway.
    Some VERY good point there that man!!! - and you ain't a thickie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed
    Very deep question Lou...I've got an answer for that one!

    It's called the "Millennial reign of Christ" who will rule with a rod of iron!

    Forget putting your confidence in man.
    A dictator then?
    Queiro voya todo Europa con mi moto.... pero no tengo suficiente tiempo o dinero.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur
    hehe

    Have you had a chance to listen to the first new episode yet?

    Had me laughing and hanging for more. Not to worry though got my towel.

    Keeping slightly (ok incredibly) OT: tried a couple of programs to capture the streaming audio. Both seem to work except there's nothing on the capture. Think it's in my settings somewhere, so I'm going to keep working at it as the first ep will only be online til Thursday. Hopefully I can get it sorted then I'll be assured of future listening enjoyment.
    Could you PM me the links? I've been too lazy to hook up and listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k14
    Amen to that, he rides a harley aswell, don't think anything more needs to be said.
    Yes, there is. It's not that he rides a Harley - it's that he's not a biker; he's a knob-end and looks like one astride his Harley, trying to look kewl but ending up just looking like an old, fat cat, poseur.
    I almost wish I lived in the Auckland City electorate so I could vote against him.

    And GL, JR - what's this about "the first new episode"? You've piqued my interest, but I've no idea what you're on about.:spudwhat:
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by firestormer
    And GL, JR - what's this about "the first new episode"? You've piqued my interest, but I've no idea what you're on about.:spudwhat:
    New HHGTTG radio series. Broadcast as streaming interweb-thingy audio, of course. Radio is for Old People.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur
    Note: I'm not a "voter", but I was damn glad that we had the PM we have when things started in Iraq. If it had been English in there he would of just been another Blair/Howard lackie. Took a woman with balls to stand up and say "go fuck yourselves*"

    *- In diplomatic terms anyway.
    I'll second that. Not just balls but a brain. Her skilful handling of this and other complex issues makes her, to my mind, the most intelligent and capable PM we have had in a long time. Too many people refuse to give her credit for her successes and resort to ad hominem attacks because subconsciously they resent and fear such ability in a woman...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL
    Her skilful handling of this and other complex issues makes her, to my mind, the most intelligent and capable PM we have had in a long time.
    One does get that impression.

    And at least our current Government have the balls to overtly pursue a policy of redistributive economics. Whether or not you agree with that (and disagreers, say what they will, tend to be motivated, even if subconsciously, by the fact that they personally would stand to benefit from less intervention) you have to admire the ideals embodied in the Marxism Lite demonstrated by the last Budget.

    Funnily enough, one of my team members at work is on the ACT party list. If they get 10% of the party vote, she'll be in Parliament. And in spite of my efforts, I haven't ever had a single interesting discussion with her. Believe it or not, she views politics as akin to religion, being something that's private and not subject to rational defense.

    Give me Helen any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL
    I'll second that. Not just balls but a brain. Her skilful handling of this and other complex issues makes her, to my mind, the most intelligent and capable PM we have had in a long time. Too many people refuse to give her credit for her successes and resort to ad hominem attacks because subconsciously they resent and fear such ability in a woman...

    When you have seen real prime ministers and people of character such as Maggie Thatcher, Francois Mitterand, Helmut Kohl and the like, you realise how laughable and inexperienced our PM is

    Its kind of like rule by opinion rather than anything else.

    As an individual - yes I give her credit - as I would anyone that gets themselves into a lead political role (it takes some skill and charisma). But compared with others that do the same job - no.
    The contents of this post are my opinion and may not be subjected to any form of reality
    It means I'm not an authority or a teacher, and may not have any experience so take things with a pinch of salt (a.k.a bullshit) rather than fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posh Tourer :P
    A dictator then?
    A Dictatorship, yes...but before He comes along there will be a New(One) World Order established under united nations. It's nearly here actually.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil
    That is incorrect.
    Rates are not tax. They're a standard fee for services (eg, water, refuse).
    A fee collected by a Government, in this case local Government, is the very definition of Tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed
    A Dictatorship, yes...but before He comes along there will be a New(One) World Order established under united nations. It's nearly here actually.
    does that mean "The End Of The World Is Nigh"?
    and something about
    "the mountains of the Aarth"

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