Low-siding: how to get out from under?

**moT** · 21st July 2007, 23:37

first whats a CAGE!!
and just try not to be under the bike when its slideing that hurts

**McJim** · 21st July 2007, 23:44

I have heard of people recovering lowsides...the technique is known as luck. Shitloads of it. If it was a simple skill we wouldn't see the likes of Valentino Rossi sliding gracelessly off a corner and throwing a title away would we?

**Deano** · 22nd July 2007, 00:17

Originally Posted by McJim

I have heard of people recovering lowsides...the technique is known as luck. Shitloads of it. If it was a simple skill we wouldn't see the likes of Valentino Rossi sliding gracelessly off a corner and throwing a title away would we?

I've heard, and seen some very reputable racers pushing off the knee to lift the bike back up.

It's only really happened to me once - felt the rear start to go.....sweet, then the front started, whoops, hang on......knee down.......sweet........but instead of pushing off the knee, the bike sorted itself out.......all good.

No pressure.

Bikes are bloody great - centrifugal forces tend to correct themselves, just relax and hang on for the ride.

**ZeroIndex** · 22nd July 2007, 04:48

Originally Posted by Tom

first whats a CAGE!!
and just try not to be under the bike when its slideing that hurts

A cage in general transport is another name for a motorvehicle, shown in Diagram A:

When it comes to motorcycles however,
a cage is something that a stunter would normally bolt onto his bike...
...to avoid it getting as f**ked as mine is right now... See Diagram B:

**moT** · 22nd July 2007, 17:01

thanks mcjim but why is a car called a cage?

**moT** · 22nd July 2007, 17:02

oh never mind i understand now

**puddy** · 22nd July 2007, 17:09

I read somewhere that they are doing that stunt on the upcoming Mission Impossible 4 movie, using a KB stuntman/woman, riding an Aprilia or Ducati that sounds like a ZXR400 with an aftermarket pipe. All interested post your name on this thread!

**DocMartin** · 22nd July 2007, 23:04

Originally Posted by Deano

I've heard, and seen some very reputable racers pushing off the knee to lift the bike back up.

It's only really happened to me once - felt the rear start to go.....sweet, then the front started, whoops, hang on......knee down.......sweet........but instead of pushing off the knee, the bike sorted itself out.......all good.

No pressure.

Bikes are bloody great - centrifugal forces tend to correct themselves, just relax and hang on for the ride.

When it starts to slide out, neutral throttle, turn opposite direction of the corner, roll throttle back on when ya get some grip for controlld slide

Practice it on ya dirt bike if ya not keen on scuffing ya leathers...

good fun

**0arbreaka** · 23rd July 2007, 00:42

Originally Posted by Tom

thanks mcjim but why is a car called a cage?

are you a complete and utter retard or are you just fucking stupid?

**Roj** · 23rd July 2007, 10:55

As has been said it takes a lot of luck to get out of a lowside,

if you are on a racetrack and the lowside is because you are leaning to much, then yes good technique and skills might get you out of it.

If you deliberatley lowside because a cage has cut you off, maybe you can then think about you can do, (yes I have done this, slid the bike out to the right, pulled my left leg up and rolled off, and also in 20/20 hindsight, maybe I could have done something different)

If, as is most common when on the road you are not expecting to lowside, then you have to be very quick to react, generally when something goes wrong you would only have 1 or maybe 2 seconds to do something, the first thing is to realise that you are not were you want to be.

The best you can do is ride "defensively" and try to be ready for when things go wrong, and make sure you practise all your riding skills.

**bert_is_evil** · 23rd July 2007, 11:48

Hmmm, this isn't something I'd want to do - because of the weight of the bike it keeps sliding for a lot longer than a person. In all of the lowsides I've been involved in I've come to a halt a lot quicker than the bike has, which in one instance smashed into a Kerb and became a shower of assorted plastic and other parts in front of me - I wouldn't have wanted to be on top of it at the time.

**ManDownUnder** · 23rd July 2007, 11:55

Originally Posted by Usarka

practice makes perfect. watch for the cars behind though

Practice... perfect????

My perspective. Been riding for (fark!) 22 years, with a 7 year break in the middle. So 15 years in the saddle. I'm talking daily commute here, no weekend rider. Never have been.

Not ONCE have I ever low sided, through good luck and good management. I'm 200% open to correction on this but.. practicing a lowside is kinda dumb. Practice emergency braking, practice, braking on coerners, practice all manner of things... but practice sliding down the road sitting on top of your bike while the tarmac does a commendable job of abrading it away???

errrrr no.

**avgas** · 23rd July 2007, 11:56

Originally Posted by puddy

I read somewhere that they are doing that stunt on the upcoming Mission Impossible 4 movie, using a KB stuntman/woman, riding an Aprilia or Ducati that sounds like a ZXR400 with an aftermarket pipe. All interested post your name on this thread!

If i see my ol' Z all scratched up, i will be seriously pissed - it took me fricken 4 weeks to get that finish all sanded up n painted