New Zealand Court processes

[Gareth123]

Okay I was in a bad accident just over 2 months ago. A cage driver (which i am now, unfortunately one) didn't look before turning right and i hit him at 100km/h. As he was coming towards me before turning right and because he didn't look he's being charged with careless use of a motor-vehicle causing injury. Everything is sweet there. Guy acts like a moron and gets charged. I was happy.

Here comes the real kicker, he goes to court and gets placed on remand to appear again. He does and again gets placed on remand. No plea has been entered. Surely the judge would ask "Are you guilty or not guilty?" and the guy would give his answer and things would proceed from there. How can someone appear in court twice and not enter a plea?

If this keeps going it makes me want to buy a set of dark clothing including a balaclava and practice some arse kicking on his arse

Has anyone experienced this before? Does it eventually get resolved? Or am i going to have to find someone who knows a guy who can return the "favour" of numerous broken bones?

[Goblin]

Has anyone experienced this before? Does it eventually get resolved? Or am i going to have to find someone who knows a guy who can return the "favour" of numerous broken bones?

Yes I have. After my head-on incident the old cunt plead not guilty and it dragged on for months and months. His lawyer found every excuse in the book to delay proceedings. He was eventually found guilty by the judge and sentenced to 200 hours community service and 6 months loss of licence. At least I out-lived the old cunt but I do regret not going to his funeral/wake and drinking as much piss as possible and causing havoc!

[SARGE]

violence never solved anything ..



(except Fascism, slavery, WW1, WW2, ...

[Gareth123]

violence never solved anything ..

Yeah but it would sure make me feel a lot better.

The old guy who hit me has actually told me he can't understand why he's being charged because he didn't do anything careless or dangerous he just didn't see me!

Can't wait until i'm all better...

[TLMAN]

Whats the charge? Careless or careless causing injury? If it is the latter then it holds a 6 month disqualification period as well as a hefty fine, whereas careless use is pretty minor. He is probably stalling as he doesnt want to lose his licence or is seeking legal advice.

[Scouse]

The old guy who hit me has actually told me he can't understand why he's being charged because he didn't do anything careless or dangerous he just didn't see me!

This is all good for you as you can have your lawyer or police prosecutor use this as an example of how he is not showing any remorse for his actions.

[Goblin]

Yeah but it would sure make me feel a lot better.

The old guy who hit me has actually told me he can't understand why he's being charged because he didn't do anything careless or dangerous he just didn't see me!

Can't wait until i'm all better...

That's more or less what the old cunt that hit me said...only he said I shouldn't have been there. All I really wanted was an apology or him to say sorry I was hurt but no...he was old and never had an accident in 50 years so he cant have been at fault!

[Patrick]

He is probably stalling as he doesnt want to lose his licence or is seeking legal advice.

Or his lawyer is... is it legal aid? If so, every appearance the lawyer gets paid taxpayer funded $$$. So well worth dragging it out, as the old codger doesn't have to pay anything......

In answer to "I just didn't see you..."

"ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND OR WHAT?"

[Patrick]

only he said I shouldn't have been there.

Should have said, "No, coffin dodger... you shouldn't be here... in more ways than one..."

[TLMAN]

Or his lawyer is... is it legal aid?

Good point I never thought of that!

[Goblin]

In answer to "I just didn't see you..."

"ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND OR WHAT?"

Or "Because you weren't fuckin LOOKING!"

Should have said, "No, coffin dodger... you shouldn't be here... in more ways than one..."

coffin dodger!

[doc]

Or "Because you weren't fuckin LOOKING!"

coffin dodger!

Cmon, Goblin get it off your chest we are here for you. Our ACC levies are going to make these people aware of you. Good reason to pay more, it makes us safer, until they are that pissed they can't focus. That's when they throw the book at them and forget about us. That is until they do the bean counting thing and work out the cost of our rehab and charge to us in our levies. Well that how I feel about it anyway.

[peasea]

Yeah but it would sure make me feel a lot better.

The old guy who hit me has actually told me he can't understand why he's being charged because he didn't do anything careless or dangerous he just didn't see me!

Can't wait until i'm all better...

I think is was (most likely) an Asian who once said; "there's more than one way to skin a cat"

Keep your head down, say nothing, just do it. It's unlikely you'll get satisfaction in a courtroom anyway. Get well soon and PM me with a note as to your methodology.

[Goblin]

Cmon, Goblin get it off your chest we are here for you....

No not the ACC debate/debacle....thats a whole new thread.

I did learn that it's not only intersections you have to be aware at....any cage coming towards you can just turn right infront of you and you're fucked if you dont see it coming. Infact I narrowly missed being hit head on, with my son on the back, a coupla weeks back. Stupid teenage girls giggling like it was a fuckin big joke! If I didnt have my boy on the back I would have chased them down and *555ed them for dangerous bloody driving!

[doc]

No not the ACC debate/debacle....thats a whole new thread.

I did learn that it's not only intersections you have to be aware at....any cage coming towards you can just turn right infront of you and you're fucked if you dont see it coming. Infact I narrowly missed being hit head on, with my son on the back, a coupla weeks back. Stupid teenage girls giggling like it was a fuckin big joke! If I didnt have my boy on the back I would have chased them down and *555ed them for dangerous bloody driving!

Last off I had was comming home home from the Kiwi in 04. Straight piece of road I felt we were travelling too fast, probably cos I had my 16 year old daughter on the back and it was wet. All I remember which I mentioned quite often while giving a statement when we got out of the hospital was "Seeing purple flashes as we went down real fast on a straight bit of road. Bike followed the traffic we cartwheeled down the road crossing through the traffic and finished on the other side of the road, managed to avoid the stock trucks etc. Three weeks later the police notified my wife by phone they had decided not to prosecute me for "careless use causing injury". They didn't mention that the two cars following had given us their details that we werent going fast and just fell over. Wife asked if we could claim against the road conditions. They said it was not of their concern why the accident happened just that some one was injured (Daughter was transported to local hospital for x-ray by Ambulance which require acountablitity for their use ) Really I think if the bike was ridable she should have hardened up an we got the fu.ck out of there before the authorities arrived but she could't stand up so I was fUC.KED. Oh well shit happens wife would never allow her to get a license to go to the Kiwi on her own bike. I suppose I should have hardened up and allowed her to get a license and do what she wanted. But the wife has a firm grip on my ball's cos of her income. So I'm fuc.ked what ever I do.