Biker stuck at lights… as he is too light!

[cooneyr]

The lights are supposed to change for a vehicle.

If they don't change they are faulty and you have the right to ignore the lights and use the right-hand rule. You don't have to do dodgy side stand actions or hop off and press the pedestrian cross button !

Not true - a red light is a red light and at no time can you assume it is faulty and use the right hand rule. How do decide if a light is faulty? The only way you know a light faulty is if it flashing orange, then and only then do you apply the right hand rule.

Lights have two cycle actuation types either the presence of vehicle over the loops or fixed time. If the loops fail the lights will go to fixed time. Only if the signal controllers fail will the lights default to flashing orange. Lights may take a long time to change some times but this does not mean they have failed - there is a lot of effort put into getting the phases right and they are the way they are for a good reason.

The lights will change for bicycles or larger metal objects if you stop in the right place.

Cheers R

[davereid]

Nope, not true. I got a ticket for it on my scooter, went to court, JP or judge whatever he is took 2 minutes to dismiss it.

Its really simple - if the lights are supposed to do something, and they don't they are faulty.

How the technology works is irrelevant, and you don't have to sit there like a dork waiting for the lights to figure out they are faulty for themselves.

[cooneyr]

Nope, not true. I got a ticket for it on my scooter, went to court, JP or judge whatever he is took 2 minutes to dismiss it.

Its really simple - if the lights are supposed to do something, and they don't they are faulty.

How the technology works is irrelevant, and you don't have to sit there like a dork waiting for the lights to figure out they are faulty for themselves.

So how long do you wait?????? Special circumstance maybe for your ticket but I wouldn't promote the idea of people deciding that lights are faulty. The only way they can actually know is if the lights flash orange. You are taking your life into your own hands if you decide to ignore a red.

Maybe you just stopped in the wrong place i.e. not over a loop???

R

[davereid]

Yeah I had waited a fair while, and it was about 2am !

But imho ignoring lights after you have stopped and checked for traffic is perfectly safe - certainly much safer than going through them on the green assuming the other fella will stop.

[davereid]

But look left, right... and up..

[cooneyr]

Yeah I had waited a fair while, and it was about 2am !

But imho ignoring lights after you have stopped and checked for traffic is perfectly safe - certainly much safer than going through them on the green assuming the other fella will stop.

At 2am in the morning almost all signals are on call only. If the lights are green for one way, unless somebody comes along the other road the lights will not change. The only way you can call the lights in this situation is to position yourself correctly over the loops. I've did this many times on my way to work (back in 1999) at 5.30 in the morning on an ally framed treadly.

Cheers R

[rwh]

At 2am in the morning almost all signals are on call only. If the lights are green for one way, unless somebody comes along the other road the lights will not change. The only way you can call the lights in this situation is to position yourself correctly over the loops. I've did this many times on my way to work (back in 1999) at 5.30 in the morning on an ally framed treadly.

Cheers R

And since there's presumably no expectation that people should know this, I guess you're required to sit there till morning. Are you actually even allowed to reverse away from the intersection in order to find a parking spot? Or far enough to do a U-turn? I just hope it's one of those cases where any cop would use their discretion. I ran one of these the other night when any other option I could think of would have been more dangerous.

Richard

[cooneyr]

I just hope it's one of those cases where any cop would use their discretion. I ran one of these the other night when any other option I could think of would have been more dangerous.

One can only hope!

R

[FkNAmerican]

Yeah I get that shit all the time. The worst is after they repave a road. Mind you in America the average car weighs in a 3,500 lbs (8,900 lbs if there are two actual Americans inside eating a combo meal from Burger King) so a motorcycle doesnt have much of a chance now does it. I just stop for a bit in case a popo is watching and then slowly go through looking both ways.........never been stopped for it.