Nothing to do with bikes but...

**Blackbird** · 22nd September 2004, 22:57

... there are some smart people on this site.

On the way home tonight, I stopped off at the Red Shed and bought the Finn Brothers latest CD. Stuck it in the CD player and...... bugger all

Thought I'd got a duff CD until I got home and read the microscopic fine print which essentially said "This CD has an anti-copy device and you're stuffed for playing it on a car CD". Seeing as playing music in the car to and from work is about the only time I get to play music these days, I was just a mite ticked off. My CD player is quite a decent VDO model too.

Now all this might show that I'm a tad behind the times, but is there a way round this or am I well and truly screwed? And when you've finished sniggering at my ignorance, some advice would be appreciated

Cheers

Geoff

**カワサキキド** · 22nd September 2004, 23:09

never heard of a cd a couldn't play in the cage stereo???

**SPORK** · 22nd September 2004, 23:10

Well, I spose you could rip the songs onto your computer, then make a CD with them on... Do you have a CD-Writer? Any decent burning software (Read: Nero) should have a "Copy CD" function on it.

**Ghost Lemur** · 22nd September 2004, 23:28

Depending on the type of Protection they've used it could be a simple biro trick (on the old sort it was a felt).

If you can glean anymore info as to the protection type they've used I'll have a hunt for hacks for ya.

Personally I refuse to pay to be accused of being a "criminal". Also "ripping" the cd to a backup should bypass the problem. Will just be a case of finding a ripper capable of bypassing the particular protection system they've used. Thankfully the people working against such stupidity are a lot smarter and greatly outnumber those working to implement them. As long as that continues you don't really have much to worry about, besides the inconvenience.

Slightly OT: Can anyone else think of an industry that can get away with automatically accusing every customer of being a thief?

**Mongoose** · 22nd September 2004, 23:50

I'll add to my ever increasing admissions of hignorance, why if its an anti copying thingy would that stop it getting played in a car CD?I would have thought that would be the least likely place for a copy to be made from

**jazbug5** · 23rd September 2004, 06:38

Hadn't heard of the CD refusing to play in the car stereo- but my sister's car stereo (Sony- boo, hissssss) won't play self authored CDs. Which is particularly annoying, since I spent about 2 days making her compilation CDs for a road trip recently, and she couldn't play them.
What a rip off.
:disapint:

**Blakamin** · 23rd September 2004, 09:08

Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur

Personally I refuse to pay to be accused of being a "criminal". Also "ripping" the cd to a backup should bypass the problem. Will just be a case of finding a ripper capable of bypassing the particular protection system they've used.

Musicmatch jukebox will rip copy protected CD's
I have to rip CD's for a living and the only ripper we use at work is MMJB 8.2
A LOT of new cd's will have problems with car units and older cd players.
I went and got an mp3 player for the mrs cage. works well!

**MrMelon** · 23rd September 2004, 09:26

Blakamin, do you work at that place in Pram that does those mp3 jukeboxes?

I've heard a few of those copy protected cd's won't play in some stereos. It's pretty stupid really. It's just going to drive people to make more copies of them so they can actually use them.

**Blakamin** · 23rd September 2004, 09:34

Originally Posted by MrMelon

Blakamin, do you work at that place in Pram that does those mp3 jukeboxes?

thats the place... i'm teh music manager

**Blackbird** · 24th September 2004, 09:49

Thanks for all the excellent feedback everyone – the saga continues! The fine print on the Finn Brothers CD says "This disc contains Copy Control technology. On some equipment, for example car CD players, playback problems may be encountered.” This is downright annoying as I suspect that many people listen to more music in the car than at home. I stuck the disc in the computer at home and got a message saying that more files needed to be loaded for it to play. The disc has its own player software on it!

Blakamin – thanks for the advice. I downloaded MMJ v 9.0 last night and failed to copy the tracks. This is probably as much my own incompetence as anything as guys hate reading instructions. :confused2 Will try again after the weekend.

It’s a bit of a worrying trend though if all CD’s are going to come out like this and can’t be played in the car. Sales might take a bit of a dive.

Will report back in a few days.

Geoff

**Blakamin** · 24th September 2004, 09:58

do a google and see if you can get 8.2
I havent tried 9
another choice http://www.cd-ripper.info
links to heaps of rippers

**curious george** · 24th September 2004, 15:26

I've got a *backup* if yuo need one too.
The original works in all our CD players, but shit that's annoying when you buy the original and it don't work.
Try Apple i-tunes, or google for E.A.C. too.
LAME is another good ripper if yuo can be bothered with it.

**toads** · 24th September 2004, 15:35

I use a program called alcohol 120% for ripping cd's it removes most copyright problems, I always make backup cd's of all my software, and music as I have an issue with scratched cd's, pisses me right off paying heaps for a cd only to have it corrupted and usuable due to scratches etc, I have an mp3 player in the van excellent, can fit 100's of songs on one cd.