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    Chef stabs assailant and now faces prison.

    Notice how the street rat has become the victim and the chef going about his business is the assailant looking forward to some jail time.

    Admittedly, he could have used a shorter blade, but they got what they asked for except they brought their fists to a knife fight.

    The crown prosecutor has abandoned his own conscience in pursuit of his career and has sacrificed the chef on the altar of political correctness.

    This sort of crap makes me sick.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/westcoast/4151724a6662.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by toycollector10 View Post
    they brought their fists to a knife fight.

    This sort of crap makes me sick.
    LOL, and ditto, it's fuckin' disgraceful. Whatever happened to self defence? The Chef would be a fuckin' hero if this happened in ANY OTHER COUNTRY!
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    "This was a serious crime. It is clearly one where the victim was lucky to escape with his life," he said.

    Defence counsel Pip Hall said the victim had fully recovered. The chef had a good work record, good family support in court, had little history of offending, and had been on bail for a year since his arrest without problems.
    Sorry I'm a little confused. Looks like some role-swapping going on here.

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    I agree TOY, this is another BS example of the real victim, the Chef, getting done for self defence. Start an online petition! Admittedly, he could have just brandished the knife, but if he was poohing himself - and I wouldve been, he may have reacted on instinct.

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    the chef desirves jail time for defending himself doesnt he know that the crims have all the rights, i hope they chuck the book at him

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    What do they expect chef's not to throw knives or would they prefer the Assailant to of been whipped by a whisk yeilding chef.....now if it was a wooden spoon that would of just been called kinky

    I am with the chef......... fillet the lawyer and the system

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    Every one is justified in using, in the defence of himself or another, such force as, in the circumstances as he believes them to be, it is reasonable to use.

    I've been punched in the mouth a few times. It's not pleasant, but it doesn't warrant a retaliatory stabbing. It doesn't sound like any of the youth gang were armed.

    Sorry, but I'm afraid we all have a responsibility to act with restraint and good judgement. Busting out a lethal weapon in response to fisticuffs, however annoying or nervewracking the situation may have been, is over the top. I'm speaking as someone who 'carries' 24/7. I'm sure that the chef's 'guilty' plea would have been made after taking appropriate legal advice.

    I don't think any Western jurisdiction would countenance the use of a gun or knife in 'self defence' against unarmed harrassment and a single closed-fist punch.

    Less drastic self-defence weapons are readily available.
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    I agree, the chef should be punished....
    He didn't finish the job.
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    It's a tricky one all right.

    Years ago I worked with a young guy who lived in a rough part of Rotorua. When he was younger, he'd been set upon by a bunch of guys who broke his arm and stole his bicycle. After that he was terrified it would happen again, so he carried a pocket knife.
    At the time I was working with him, he was walking home one night when three guys (one armed with a hatchet) stopped him and refused to let him go till he gave them some money. One grabbed him around the neck, so he stabbed him in the arm with his pocketknife. Guess who was arrested? And he was only a weedy little guy, so given the circumstances, what he did seemed very reasonable.
    Here's another peculiar thing: we were working in a bush gang, cutting scrub, pruning, etc., and most of the guys (including the female ones) were very rough, and in either the Mongrel Mob or Black Power (can't remember now). I was very surprised at their reaction to this story - I expected, "Fair enough". Instead, their reaction was "He better not try that shit round here or we'll do him!"
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    I'd have jammed it up under his chin.....piece of shit hoodrat.

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    The chef did little to help himself in this case. Carrying an offensive weapon is a criminal act, as is using it. So too is running from a crime scene.

    And it's his word against those of his alleged assailants, one of whom was stabbed.

    Let's let the criminal justice system sort this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Sorry, but I'm afraid we all have a responsibility to act with restraint and good judgement.
    I disagree here, poor kid is 21, doesn't have a bad bone in his body, is a good worker and friend, and is all alone while a bunch of thugs pick on him until he snaps. When he snaps it will only be animal nature as a reaction.
    I was in one of these situations many years ago, eventually i snapped, picked up whatever i had available (in my situation it was a mountainbike) and swung full force at the assailant.
    Long story short, if you box someone into a corner and keep poking - dont expect to walk home. If the said person is carrying a weapon that could kill you, dont expect to live.
    I would expect the same from any other creature on this planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    I disagree here, poor kid is 21, doesn't have a bad bone in his body... When he snaps it will only be animal nature as a reaction.
    Read the article - the chef's "little history of offending" can also, depending on how the reporter wants to slant the story, read as "two previous convictions".

    And he ran from the scene instead of staying and taking responsibility for his actions. It's all very sad, but the bottom line is, an unarmed guy got stabbed.

    Personally, I would be disappointed in myself if I ever 'snapped' and failed to contain my 'animal nature'. I despise individuals who lack the capability to control those impulses.

    The redneck nonsense along the lines of "the kid had it coming" that people are spouting on this thread is typical of the childish, irresponsible bullshit that drags NZ society down.

    And you wonder why we have a problem with ethnic gangs and child abuse?
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    justice.........there is no fuking justice

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