Chef stabs assailant and now faces prison.

**Goblin** · 29th September 2007, 17:07

Originally Posted by Patrick

Totally agreed.... lawyer was either incompetent or there actually was more to this than what the "media" told everyone.... Perhaps the chefs story wasn't quite true and the kids were picked on by him.... but who knows, we haven't heard anything from these kids, if they were charged for any wrongs they were meant to have done to the chef, nothing..... Hmmmm.....

Is there any way to find out? Once it's been through the court process, are the public allowed to know what the story really was?

**Wolf** · 29th September 2007, 17:33

Originally Posted by Patrick

And that is what the media kept on repeating... not the fact that he attacked a taxi and its occupants, the copp windscreen, advanced on a cop who went to talk to him beciase he thought he recognised him, but while advancing and threatening, cop drew his weapon while backing away until he could back away no further...

What is it with people these days? (Oh, fuck, I'm sounding old)

Bloke up in Auckland brandishes realistic a toy pistol, refuses to drop it when the police a) warn him and b) wound him TWICE, so is shot and killed.

Bloke tampering with some Westie's motorbike is challenged by the owner; instead of running, stabs him in the neck with a screwdriver and puts him in hospital.

Drongo on a rampage with a golf club threatens cop rather than submitting to arrest - even after the cop has drawn a firearm.

This whole "fuck everyone else, my rights to do as I like are paramount" attitude (though probably not as eloquently expressed in the head of the average citizen) is getting out of hand.

Small wonder people around here cringe whenever there's another "fuck the pigs, if they try to pull me over I'll do a runner 'coz I'm fucken Rossi, man" post.

High time that when people like that survive long enough to get arrested, they get some huge motherfucker pounding their head against the wall screaming "TAKE FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS, YOU SOFT-COCKED RETARD!"

Seriously. Too many people seem to think they can do as they bloody please and not have to face the music.

Seriously: Break the law, by all means - but if the rozzers turn up, at least have the nuts to say "it's a fair cop".

**Patrick** · 30th September 2007, 12:46

Bwahahahahaha Wolf... gotta spread the bling...

**Edbear** · 30th September 2007, 13:15

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

I fully believe that any injury received in the commision of a crime is the fault of the criminal...

Hey, now there's an idea!!!! Surely you're not suggesting justice, here, are you...?

**Delerium** · 30th September 2007, 15:10

and well deserved. in fact they shourd charge the prick for the hospital costs.

**Wolf** · 30th September 2007, 15:35

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

I fully believe that any injury received in the commision of a crime is the fault of the criminal and any evidence from them is null and void.

Originally Posted by Edbear

Hey, now there's an idea!!!! Surely you're not suggesting justice, here, are you...?

Originally Posted by Delerium

and well deserved. in fact they shourd charge the prick for the hospital costs.

Right with you, there. Our ACC levies go, in part to pay for some bastard who injures himself in the commission of a crime.

If we're going to be forced into paying money to the most useless Insurance Company on the planet, we should at least have some satisfaction in knowing that their reluctance to pay out has a reason rather than just them being a pack of greedy pricks who like raking in but not paying out.

To that end, I propose that ACC should follow the procedures all other insurance companies follow - and refuse to pay out if it's the claimant's own stupid fault - i.e. breaking the law

That prick that got $20K for breaking both his legs trying to escape from prison should have not got a cent. Rather, he should have paid the full price for X-rays, plaster casts etc and, if he couldn't afford them. Tough shit.

Sick of paying through the nose to subsidise someone else's criminal lifestyle

**toycollector10** · 30th September 2007, 16:11

I was at the pub last night and a guy I know told me about having his wallet picked from his back pocket while he was walking in the Westfield Mall in Riccarton. It happened this week. Just after leaving an ATM and withdrawing quite a lot of cash.

He felt the pick, identified the thief and chased him down from about 15 meters. Dropped him, and according to the mall security camera film, he put four good punches into his head and three into his gut and ribs before he was pulled off the guy.

There were five of the scrotums so you could call it a gang, from a shangri-la well to the north of New Zealand. The same five believed to be involved of a bag snatch last week. Unfortunately, the snatch caused the 80 year old lady to go down, and, you guessed it, broke her hip. That will probably end her life prematurely for sure, as these injuries always seem to.

So that's one for the citizens and I hope they throw the bastards in jail.

There's some sort of pathetic "eastside"/"westside" bullshite going on is this town, so they are probably part of it. The tagging here is getting really bad but the council doesn't give a sh*t. If they did, there would be some action on it.

**Delerium** · 30th September 2007, 20:01

Little wannabe 'im from east compton LA yo' gangastas that only have the balls to take you on when your outnumbered 3 to one.

**Goblin** · 30th September 2007, 20:50

Originally Posted by Delerium

Little wannabe 'im from east compton LA yo' gangastas that only have the balls to take you on when your outnumbered 3 to one.

Was it Lucy and Ramona and Sunset Sam?

**toycollector10** · 30th September 2007, 22:11

They met at a zoo for sure but on what side of the bars??

"Lucy was from Compton and she met Ramona at the zoo"

**Puddlejumper** · 30th September 2007, 23:52

Seems theres 2 distinct points of view in this thread. One says basically, face fists with fists even if you are outnumbered. The reasonable force proposition. The other says , use what you can but don't be a victim.

Over the years I've read of quite a few people murdered here in NZ by unarmed thugs. Hell, I aint no fighter and twice now I've had the crap beaten out of me. Both times I found myself in the wrong place at the wrong time. Both times I attempted to talk, move away etc but found myself unable to do so. The first time was a group of younger guys at a crowded night club who thought my mate was looking at them funny. Both of us were hit repeatedly, my nose broken.

The second time I was walking out to my car after visiting friends and encountered an angry young man. He cornered me against a car. He left a dent in my skull as a lifelong reminder that still gives me headaches. I can still hazily remember him kicking the crap out of my head while some girl said "leave him alone he's not worth it" just before I passed out. Neither time did I even get round to throwing a punch. ( Actually, although she probably saved me from further harm that comment has really pissed me off ever since. Not worth it.. I didn't even know the guy, hadn't even spoken to him. He was obviously angry and I was there. )

No-one was charged after either of these incidents.

That tossbag could easily have killed me kicking me in the head and I know I'm no match for 1 angry, unarmed man who probably has spent his life fighting. That ain't no fair fight. I have never caused a confrontation nor will I ever but I know one thing for sure. I won't ever be a victim again. Take that however you like but the cops can't always be there to protect you.

So I believe in the second point of view. Use whatever it takes but don't be a victim. Dead people can't turn the other cheek.

**caesius** · 1st October 2007, 10:31

Originally Posted by Puddlejumper

Seems theres 2 distinct points of view in this thread. One says basically, face fists with fists even if you are outnumbered. The reasonable force proposition. The other says , use what you can but don't be a victim.

Over the years I've read of quite a few people murdered here in NZ by unarmed thugs. Hell, I aint no fighter and twice now I've had the crap beaten out of me. Both times I found myself in the wrong place at the wrong time. Both times I attempted to talk, move away etc but found myself unable to do so. The first time was a group of younger guys at a crowded night club who thought my mate was looking at them funny. Both of us were hit repeatedly, my nose broken.

The second time I was walking out to my car after visiting friends and encountered an angry young man. He cornered me against a car. He left a dent in my skull as a lifelong reminder that still gives me headaches. I can still hazily remember him kicking the crap out of my head while some girl said "leave him alone he's not worth it" just before I passed out. Neither time did I even get round to throwing a punch. ( Actually, although she probably saved me from further harm that comment has really pissed me off ever since. Not worth it.. I didn't even know the guy, hadn't even spoken to him. He was obviously angry and I was there. )

No-one was charged after either of these incidents.

That tossbag could easily have killed me kicking me in the head and I know I'm no match for 1 angry, unarmed man who probably has spent his life fighting. That ain't no fair fight. I have never caused a confrontation nor will I ever but I know one thing for sure. I won't ever be a victim again. Take that however you like but the cops can't always be there to protect you.

So I believe in the second point of view. Use whatever it takes but don't be a victim. Dead people can't turn the other cheek.

Yeah that sucks. I remember a couple of years back, a party in Hastings (some may already be able to finish the story with that), where a "gang" turned up, we calmly explained that it was our mates leaving party, and that they were, well, not our mates. It wasn't exactly huge so I don't even know how they found it. Long story short, escalates out of control, a girl gets hit (by a guy), a lot of us get hit, I personally get two black eyes and a gash on the back of my head from being stomped while lying on the road (after being hit obviously). Then the cops turn up but these assholes just walked away casually like they were invincible.

What pisses me off is these fcuking losers didn't have any reason kick the crap out of us "white boys", they were just looking for trouble. Sounds like too many people have familiar stories.

**Goblin** · 1st October 2007, 10:35

Originally Posted by caesius

What pisses me off is these fcuking losers didn't have any reason kick the crap out of us "white boys", they were just looking for trouble. Sounds like too many people have familiar stories.

And what really pisses me off is that if you retaliate with force, you'll end up with Bubba as a room mate for a couple of years.

**caesius** · 1st October 2007, 10:37

Originally Posted by Goblin

And what really pisses me off is that if you retaliate with force, you'll end up with Bubba as a room mate for a couple of years.

+1. Victims <==> Aggressors are literally swapped in that situation.

**Wolf** · 1st October 2007, 12:16

Was out watching videos at my dad's place with a group of mates, and some guys who'd been hassling my brother for a while (ex-mates of his) turned up and started threatening him, one of them started trying to smash up his car with a length of wood. Dad, me and my mates went outside and basically demanded to know WTF was going on and they scarpered like scared rabbits (their ringleader took off so fast he left one of his boots behind.)

Next day the cops turned up, accused me of shooting at these toe-rags and took us all down to the station for questioning.

Seems that one of these cowardly bastards had said to their other mates that the reason they ran like yellow sacks of shit was because we were shooting at them.

Of course our stories all matched because I hadn't shot at the bastards, but I went through considerable hell being cross-examined on firearms-related charges.

"Why do you think they would make such an accusation?"
"Well, at a guess, they came out to smack over my brother and trash his car, discovered that there were more people there than they had anticipated, ran like the gutless pricks they were and then lied to their mates to save face."

Must be so sad to be such a soft cock you need four of your mates armed with sticks to go and express your disagreement with one weedy teenager. Small wonder they ran when me, two of my mates and my dad came out of the house.