Dating

[Ocean1]

Well... spill it then!

Ok ok.......hybrid vigour?? Exoticism?

Yup, insurance against inbreeding in a small tribe.
Same reason some tribes had a tradition of exporting surplus males. Scottish Celts raised first boy children as potential leaders. Second boys as warriors, often adopted out for training to other tribes. Nothing more surplus than another alpha male.

Huh...care to give an example?...that seems to be a bit of a broad generalisation.

It is, I'm not talking about individual motivations, just some of the evolutionary reasons for some of our mating behaviour. There's some difference between current cultures but the basic behaviour has been observable throughout history.

[Maha]

For example Heidi Klum and Seal ...

Ew fuck are you kidding??....

[Kittyhawk]

Stop worrying about where "society" is going and do your own thing.

But over time society has changed. 4 years ago things were alot different.

Men appear to be less commited, as well as females. Everyone sleeps with everyone if ya single kinda thing. Even in casual relationships there will be one side which will get hurt when the other finds someone better than them.

[McJim]

But over time society has changed. 4 years ago things were alot different.

Men appear to be less commited, as well as females. Everyone sleeps with everyone if ya single kinda thing. Even in casual relationships there will be one side which will get hurt when the other finds someone better than them.

Try joining a brass band or summat. I hear all them brass players are esy pickings for chicks on bikes

[Busy]

One time at band camp ...

Ah come on, someone had to say it

[Ronin]

One time at band camp ...

Ah come on, someone had to say it

Just one time?

[Xile]

This has got to be the oldest topic discussed on the planet. And perhaps the one least capable of arriving at a consensus. For a very very good reason.

From an evolutionary perspective Men and Women require different things from a relationship. Once you get that worked out why should it come as a huge surprise that Men and Women have slightly different agendas with regards to a relationship. Sheesh, it ain’t rocket science, they want different things, COMPROMISE.

In order to propagate their worthy seed Women want a Man with genes capable of delivering the highest survival traits in their offspring. I understand Women have a highly refined set of measurement criteria they apply to prospective mates. I have no idea what those criteria are other than to note that apparently I personally don’t meet most of ‘em. She also wants him to STAY THE FUCK RIGHT HERE AND SUPPORT US. Which means ideally a manogymouse set-up where the Man’s focus is entirely on the Woman and her kids. Hence the high proportion of really scary “romantic” words essentially meaning “long term commitment” in most of the above posts by the concaved types.

In order to propagate their genes to best effect a Man wants to impregnate as many Woman as possible, preferably the ones with genes capable of delivering the highest survival traits in his offspring. The best strategy here is to fuck every Woman not substantially faster than him or not currently being otherwise entertained by a significantly larger Man. He also needs to do a tricky balancing act involving the number of offspring he can then support. The most genetically desirable ones (chase first) can readily be identified because every Man has a template hard wired into his neural cortex which diverts most of his available blood supply away from his brain. For this reason Men’s views on sexual relations are usually less than lucid.

So, can we recognise the emotive and physical triggers for each sex which effectively do the “choosing” without benefit of higher cognitive input?

Really nice post

Leaving that aside, there is research which shows that each culture has it's own criteria as to what the ideal male/female should look like.

The culture implies that you don't have the same criteria for what defines a "secured future" man, or a strong man. In our "western" society, security is a goos job, money, etc. In countries in Africa for example, it will be a man without disease, strong, who can work had. Basically, stay the same goal: have something to eat for the female and their offsprings.
The males, will be choosing a female with good potential of reproduction and very important, fidelity (to be sure the offsprings are from him). There are apparently some unconscious criteria of what is good "mother": the ratio waist/hips for example.
Sorry dont mean to be macho or something, just biological point of view, animal behaviour
Some other criteria are applied unconsciously by both female and male, like smell. Our natural odours reflect our immunological set: and the best is to find a partner with a most different set than yours, permitting a greater probability to be resistant to diseases for instance, hence the "hybrid vigour"...

questions?
loooool
...Ah the mysteries of love summarizes to only reproduction goals...sad reality of human complexity for attraction

[cowpoos]

Really nice post


The culture implies that you don't have the same criteria for what defines a "secured future" man, or a strong man. In our "western" society, security is a goos job, money, etc. In countries in Africa for example, it will be a man without disease, strong, who can work had. Basically, stay the same goal: have something to eat for the female and their offsprings.
The males, will be choosing a female with good potential of reproduction and very important, fidelity (to be sure the offsprings are from him). There are apparently some unconscious criteria of what is good "mother": the ratio waist/hips for example.
Sorry dont mean to be macho or something, just biological point of view, animal behaviour
Some other criteria are applied unconsciously by both female and male, like smell. Our natural odours reflect our immunological set: and the best is to find a partner with a most different set than yours, permitting a greater probability to be resistant to diseases for instance, hence the "hybrid vigour"...

questions?
loooool
...Ah the mysteries of love summarizes to only reproduction goals...sad reality of human complexity for attraction

Don't you have a synosis on this paticular subject doll??

Maybe you could post it?

[Xile]

Don't you have a synosis on this paticular subject doll??
Maybe you could post it?

Hey darl',
hehe...nope...no synopsis but an article!
Pretty interesting though, with some criteria of what females like in males and vice-versa...
Interested?

Here an interesting article about it mate choice in humans...(just a summary)

[Mekk]

But over time society has changed. 4 years ago things were alot different.

It's been going on for way longer than that. You're just seeing a different side of it, methinks.

[007XX]

Ew fuck are you kidding??....

nah mate...they've now been together for a couple of years and have (i think) 2 kids together.

[Kittyhawk]

It's been going on for way longer than that. You're just seeing a different side of it, methinks.

Youre probablly right

[KATWYN]

What I mean is some interracial attraction are a bit more obvious than others...For example Heidi Klum and Seal.

Where myself (french) being attracted to my husband (kiwi)

The need for "difference" in a relationship to keep the spark going.....?

[007XX]

The need for "difference" in a relationship to keep the spark going.....?

I don't think it is quite that simple...

Funnily enough, hubby and i are like 2 peas in a pod. Even though we were brought up in different countries and cultures, our upbringing was very much the same, and we just have the same views on 99% of things.

So, once again, I'd say it is down to the individual's physical and mental criterias for attraction.

[TonyB]

I don't think it is quite that simple...

Funnily enough, hubby and i are like 2 peas in a pod. Even though we were brought up in different countries and cultures, our upbringing was very much the same, and we just have the same views on 99% of things.

So, once again, I'd say it is down to the individual's physical and mental criterias for attraction.

So in other words they need to have a nice butt? Sorry- couldn't resist. As you were