Dating

[007XX]

Very well said.... as always

Cheers Buddy...

[jrandom]

falling in love is such a wonderful thing, it's the restraining orders that are the bitch

Heh.

[KATWYN]

My take on it all is with the rise in feminism (which in part needed to happen) it has made a lot of us blokes very confused :

Bit of a bummer that. Feminism is not so much about being as good as or "equal" to men, it is about being as good as and equal to women - in that a woman's, ideas and experiences are also to be valued and that they too have social, economic and legal equality.

Admittedly a small group of 'radical feminists' in Western society may have left lasting "man hating" impressions which have then resulted in tension between the sexes and a negative response to feminist goals (i.e., the above) - it is a pity any type of 'radicals' get to be the most representive of their groups. (I guess they make the most noise)

But it seems a shame that because of this unbalance, mens roles now have become casualties? Men may now have to question whether their experiences are also valued........(i.e., child custody laws for a start)

[Boob Johnson]

Bit of a bummer that. Feminism is not so much about being as good as or "equal" to men, it is about being as good as and equal to women - in that a woman's, ideas and experiences are also to be valued and that they too have social, economic and legal equality.

Admittedly a small group of 'radical feminists' in Western society may have left lasting "man hating" impressions which have then resulted in tension between the sexes and a negative response to feminist goals (i.e., the above) - it is a pity any type of 'radicals' get to be the most representive of their groups. (I guess they make the most noise)

But it seems a shame that because of this unbalance, mens roles now have become casualties? Men may now have to question whether their experiences are also valued........(i.e., child custody laws for a start)

I totally agree, we as a society needed to have the whole feminism thang goin on, a lot ways we treated/viewed woman were well over due to be "updated" as it were. I think its just one of those things, a casualty of progress if you will. Like anything the pendulum will swing back but hopefully a little closer to the middle with everyone being comfortable with each ones role & no need to flex our muscles (girlies included) to prove ourselves

[Disco Dan]

I still think women should be placed in cages and only used for viewing and procreation.

[007XX]

I totally agree, we as a society needed to have the whole feminism thang goin on, a lot ways we treated/viewed woman were well over due to be "updated" as it were. I think its just one of those things, a casualty of progress if you will. Like anything the pendulum will swing back but hopefully a little closer to the middle with everyone being comfortable with each ones role & no need to flex our muscles (girlies included) to prove ourselves

BRAVO!!! Couldn't have said it better myself...bling sent!

[avgas]

Didn't the dish run away with the spoon?

[jrandom]

I still think women should be placed in cages and only used for viewing and procreation.

Dude, if we all let nasty experiences with oxygen-thieving females affect us like that, the world would be a sad place.

Perhaps you and I should have a talk sometime.

[Boob Johnson]

BRAVO!!! Couldn't have said it better myself...bling sent!

How do you send bling on this jolly site!!

Looked around & cunny seem te find it lus

Dude, if we all let nasty experiences with oxygen-thieving females affect us like that, the world would be a sad place.

Perhaps you and I should have a talk sometime.

lmfao jrandom, got a good giggle that did, would send bling but don't know how

[ManDownUnder]

LOL.... I love this. What a merry go round... everyone's views are tainted by others and the fundamentals go unchanged (and reasonably unmentioned).

The fundamentals are these... like 'em or not.

• Men do not pick up women. Women allow men to approach them. Tis the same in the whole of the mammalian world To pretend otherwise is true for humans is futile. It is the way it works.
• Men and women are different. Androgeny is philosphical ideal that some seek to attain. I do not.
• Equal rights I support, equal abilities I debunk at every opportunity. Never confuse the two.

Guys, women are wonderfully mysterious creatures that are just delightful. Talk to a few, and listen. Their needs are different to ours (mens). Understand them and meet them where you reasonably can.

Ladies, men are equally complex, just more action than thought. Don't underestimate the complexity of thought though. It's less immediate than for women, we do rather than talk... but everyone thinks. Guys think about doing stuff, women think about emotions.

Despite what's been said over the last 50 years - neither is wrong. They are simply different. Learn how things work on both sides of the fence... in fact - let's just look at that very fence for a second.

Women will think about a fence to be built, envisage the colour style, general composition of the house and grounds and work out how they're going to compliment each other. Then construction comes to mind...

Guys will work out the line, how it needs to be generally contructed, out of what and consider the sweat equity required... before agreeing that yes a fence needs to be built. THEN they start thinking about the design.. and colour?

Men and women are not subjects of the other gender. We need to meet 1/2 way where we should, and agree to be different where we should.

Women = emotional. men = physical
Women = nurturing, men = providing
etc etc etc.

It's GOOD to have someone nurturing while someon else provides. It actually works... and works well. Why rock that boat unless you're seeking androgeny (and WHY seek it is my question).

As for dating - the same rules apply. Accept we are different. Those differences is where the fun is...

[007XX]

Dude, if we all let nasty experiences with oxygen-thieving females affect us like that, the world would be a sad place.

Perhaps you and I should have a talk sometime.

Aaaawwww... I feel a groupcoming on...

Funnily enough, I do tend to agree with JR. Bad experiences are only that : an experience. Take the lesson out of it, but do not let it taint your optimism for the rest of your life.

Look at it this way: if and when the right one comes along, you're all "women are only good as decorations", what do you think will happen?

I'm not saying live in hope, but stay open minded and do not ecome prejudiced. You will only do yourself a disservice in the long run...

[kiwifruit]

Dude, if we all let nasty experiences with oxygen-thieving females affect us like that, the world would be a sad place.

innit! !

[007XX]

How do you send bling on this jolly site!!

Looked around & cunny seem te find it lus

hit the +/- sign on the right hand side of the person's avatar line...Also take a bit of time to read the FAQs (gawd, what is it about men and instruction reading??)

lmfao jrandom, got a good giggle that did, would send bling but don't know how

yeah, he's good, ain't he?

[Boob Johnson]

LOL.... I love this. What a merry go round... everyone's views are tainted by others and the fundamentals go unchanged (and reasonably unmentioned).

The fundamentals are these... like 'em or not.

• Men do not pick up women. Women allow men to approach them. Tis the same in the whole of the mammalian world To pretend otherwise is true for humans is futile. It is the way it works.
• Men and women are different. Androgeny is philosphical ideal that some seek to attain. I do not.
• Equal rights I support, equal abilities I debunk at every opportunity. Never confuse the two.

Guys, women are wonderfully mysterious creatures that are just delightful. Talk to a few, and listen. Their needs are different to ours (mens). Understand them and meet them where you reasonably can.

Ladies, men are equally complex, just more action than thought. Don't underestimate the complexity of thought though. It's less immediate than for women, we do rather than talk... but everyone thinks. Guys think about doing stuff, women think about emotions.

Despite what's been said over the last 50 years - neither is wrong. They are simply different. Learn how things work on both sides of the fence... in fact - let's just look at that very fence for a second.

Women will think about a fence to be built, envisage the colour style, general composition of the house and grounds and work out how they're going to compliment each other. Then construction comes to mind...

Guys will work out the line, how it needs to be generally contructed, out of what and consider the sweat equity required... before agreeing that yes a fence needs to be built. THEN they start thinking about the design.. and colour?

Men and women are not subjects of the other gender. We need to meet 1/2 way where we should, and agree to be different where we should.

Women = emotional. men = physical
Women = nurturing, men = providing
etc etc etc.

It's GOOD to have someone nurturing while someon else provides. It actually works... and works well. Why rock that boat unless you're seeking androgeny (and WHY seek it is my question).

As for dating - the same rules apply. Accept we are different. Those differences is where the fun is...

Spot on MDU, you put it together well.

A few years back my fiancée & I split at that point I started reading "Men and from Mars, Women are from Venus". I know its an old(er) book now a days but still very relivent today. We have different ways of going about things, don't fight it, just understand it & work with it.

Equal rights I support, equal abilities I debunk at every opportunity. Never confuse the two

[Boob Johnson]

hit the +/- sign on the right hand side of the person's avatar line...Also take a bit of time to read the FAQs (gawd, what is it about men and instruction reading??)

*MUST............NOT............READ............MA PS*


Thanks love