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    I agree people should at least know the language of the country before trying to study there etc etc,

    But not giving a student an extention because her father died, thats just bullshit.

    That lecturer deserves a smack in the face.

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    Sounds like a bit of an arsehole, but one strike you're out?
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    Obviously Mr Congeniality had previously ruffled a few feathers higher up the food chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Obviously Mr Congeniality had previously ruffled a few feathers higher up the food chain.
    Well his ex-department ain't exactly the Science or Arts faculty. They have one very small building to themselves -- it's one of the ex-cottages on Symonds St amongst the trees. Not many people in the department, typical academic story; any stirring of the pot and he was bound to get a taste of his own political medicine.

    I'd say he's also fairly expendable, too. They'll fill his spot pretty quickly I should think.

    Never mind all the racist stuff -- I know a good chunk of the members on KB are closet mosque-burners, so nobody will make any headway there -- but what the geezer wrote was out of line, no matter what their academic performance or language skills. If he didn't believe the fact her father was dead, then he first should've gone to the medical chaps who passed her aegrotat and disputed it with them.

    I'm quite interested about what will happen in the future to him, and to papers that he's written or will write. I've never done any political science stuff at uni, but in studying a philosophy course last year the lecturer spoke about a researcher's studies. She spoke about what he'd written and produced, and then went on to mention that a lot of his research is viewed with some caution in the academic world as after his death it was found that he'd abused his wife (or something like that, I forget now). This was directly relevant to what he had espoused during his lifetime, so it cast his papers in a different light.

    If this Buchanan bloke starts carrying on in a fairly racist manner (I know all you guys are cheering him on for it, but in the academic world you don't talk like that), how's that going to affect the way his studies are seen? I mean, he is in political science, which one would think (right now) has a lot to do with Islam and the middle-east and all that kind of lark. The news has probably `gone global' by now and I should think any paper with his name on it will be carefully examined from now on.

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    what"s the problem he told it how he saw it case closed to many students try to take the easy way out well tough shit hope he sues the uni will it happen wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil_Byte View Post
    I'm on the side of the lecturer on this one.

    You should have to work for a degree and not expect it to be handed to you on a plate.

    Also why should we need to be PC. I am sure the students country would not cater to our cultural beliefs as we seem to have to cater to theirs.
    My sis is attending uni and she says theres a huge problem with asian students cheating!!! So the tutors are changing the way they do things to catch them out.
    And I dont know of any other country which is as culterally sensitive as NZ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by u4ea View Post
    My sis is attending uni and she says theres a huge problem with asian students cheating!!! So the tutors are changing the way they do things to catch them out.
    And I dont know of any other country which is as culterally sensitive as NZ..
    When did NZ start becoming culturally sensitive??

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    Quote Originally Posted by u4ea View Post
    My sis is attending uni and she says theres a huge problem with asian students cheating!!! So the tutors are changing the way they do things to catch them out.
    And I dont know of any other country which is as culterally sensitive as NZ..
    You have to be kidding - sensitive? You want to see PC touchy feely gone mad try the UK/Europe. WTF has her being a muslim got to do with her father dying/late assignment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbuoy View Post
    You have to be kidding - sensitive? You want to see PC touchy feely gone mad try the UK/Europe. WTF has her being a muslim got to do with her father dying/late assignment?
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    One of the better arguments that I've seen from the Herald feedback pages:

    As a student you are informed of all rules and regulations in the first class of every paper taken.My view, if this student's father had been sick for a period of time and was causing her trauma, then the extension should have been requested prior to the due date. Had the student's father been killed by a bus while crossing the street(for example)the day before the assignment was due, then shouldn't she have already had her assignment completed and ready to hand in? The choice to study at university level brings with it many responsibilities. You are there because you want to be, and you have been privileged enough to be accepted. One is not spoon-fed. One's talents are not nurtured by lecturers. You are there to study, and it is up to the individual to decide the effort they wish to put in to their work. If you can't manage your time or ability then it is no-one else's problem but yours
    - source http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/st...ectid=10456458

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    I think that Mr Lecturer is a dickhead. One would think/hope that somebody in his position would be more skilled at crafting emails and at least review them prior to hitting the "send" command. I detect an intellectual arrogance that seems to permeate from some academics.

    Should he have been sacked? No.
    I agree with much that has been said here, but another nail in the guys coffin is that he complained the students were "very badly underperforming", ie. double negative, they were in fact doing rather well.

    Now I know in Spanish (which he would be familiar with, you would think) double negatives don't apply, but English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90s View Post
    I agree with much that has been said here, but another nail in the guys coffin is that he complained the students were "very badly underperforming", ie. double negative, they were in fact doing rather well.

    Now I know in Spanish (which he would be familiar with, you would think) double negatives don't apply, but English?

    Sorry, you're outta here.
    This might also be an example of intellectual arrogance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by u4ea View Post
    ...there's a huge problem with asian students cheating!!!
    That is an understatement.
    They are not even smart or subtle when doing it, either.
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    New information.

    He was sympathetic to the idiot, even answering her questions like:

    "Please can you illustrate further what does bibliographic essay? Should I do the essay on a topic which interests me?" [sic]

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    Quote Originally Posted by caesius View Post
    New information.

    He was sympathetic to the idiot, even answering her questions like:

    "Please can you illustrate further what does bibliographic essay? Should I do the essay on a topic which interests me?" [sic]
    Yes and he instructed her in the appropiate manner of the correct procedure in how she can gain an extension for bereavement purposes.

    Seems like he acted all fair and above board to me.

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