Stoner urges FIM to hold firm on tyre rules

[Matt Bleck]

Good on him too!

"Rossi hit out at the current Moto rules that restrict all but the Dunlop-shod runners to 44 tyres per weekend, complaining that it is spoiling the show for the fans."

Seems Rossi is getting abit pissed eh?


http://eurosport.yahoo.com/02082007/...yre-rules.html

[vifferman]

But it's crap when the outcome of the race is decided by tyres, which it has been on many occasions. Michelin have done a really crap job this year, and apart from a couple of races, Bridgestone has done really well.

The bikes are pretty evenly matched now, but it's been VERY noticeable that most races have been dominated by one tyre brand.

Rossi is quite right - it's a piss-off for fans when you see riders give their best and the tyres let them down.

No disrespect to Stoner - he's ridden very consistently and brilliantly, but it would've been nice to see things more evenly matched.

The tyre rule is bollix.

[k14]

Nah its not, just part of the game. I even saw that Jerry Burgess said its a good rule and wants it to be left how it is.

No disrespect to Stoner - he's ridden very consistently and brilliantly, but it would've been nice to see things more evenly matched.

The tyre rule is bollix.

This isn't 5 year olds soccer, this is international motorcycling. Stoner has had 2 races where his result was influenced by his tyres. Its just a part of the game, made it even more reliant on the behind the scenes people and how well a team can function.

[Matt Bleck]

If it's all about the rider then shouldn't they all be riding the same bike with the same tyre?

Michelin have had it good for far to long!

[avgas]

Moto GP is just a big sack of whining posers anyhow.
"My tyres suck, that pass was illegal, save the planet, children are the future...."

[Tim 39]

I agree with Stoner, it's up to the tyre manufacturers to make a suitable tyre that lasts the distance. just a question though... why are dunlop exempt from the rule?

[k14]

just a question though... why are dunlop exempt from the rule?

Because this is their first year back in motogp (or maybe 2nd) and the FIM want them to have all the opportunities possible to get up on par with bridgestone and michelin. Its obvious that at the moment it isn't giving them an advantage, as soon as they win a race or maybe get on the podium a few times it will be yanked and they'll have the same rules as the other two. Good for the sport as far as I'm concerned.

[Deano]

Moto GP is just a big sack of whining posers anyhow.
"My tyres suck, that pass was illegal, save the planet, children are the future...."

Great post dude..........pfffft !

[avgas]

I reckon it would be fantastic if we could have some racing with bikes, which don't all look the same, sound the same, with riders who actually had gave a damn.
I remember a comment from Kawasaki cheif in the 90's
"Moto GP looks promising, as we do not want to race in a class where we cannot sell the bikes - the 2 stroke scene has been to hard to sell due to emission laws"
Anyone seen a 800cc V4 kawasaki in a showroom???
Its all a crock of shit.
I wanna see an R1 with Pirelli Diablos race a ZX10 on Pilots, with riders that dropped out of school cos they thought they were the next Troy Corser, but they drank too much last night so they are seeing double.
None of this, i didnt make it to F1 so i will give this a try bullshit.
Bring back 2 strokes and pre-race drinkers.

[Tim 39]

Because this is their first year back in motogp (or maybe 2nd) and the FIM want them to have all the opportunities possible to get up on par with bridgestone and michelin. Its obvious that at the moment it isn't giving them an advantage, as soon as they win a race or maybe get on the podium a few times it will be yanked and they'll have the same rules as the other two. Good for the sport as far as I'm concerned.

sounds fair enough

[SimJen]

Rossi is verbal about the rules because it is letting the fans down.
The racing isn't as good as it was last year, simple as that!
The tyre divide can be seen at all the races and can be evidenced by how far back some really good riders are!
I'd imagine Michelin will be back on form by the end of the year.....too late no doubt for Rossi.

[vifferman]

Rossi is verbal about the rules because it is letting the fans down.

Yeah, he's very conscious of that. Not only that, but he loves the challenge of a good race, and the harder/closer it is, the better. If it's just down to tyres, then it eliminates the opportunity to scrap it out till the end.

He's kinda screwed - Michelin haven't done as good a job as they could have, but he can't do a King Frog and bitch about it, because they're one of his sponsors. There are racing classes where everyone is on the same tyre, and although that may not be good for advertising or development, it's good for the racing.

[k14]

Rossi is verbal about the rules because it is letting the fans down.
The racing isn't as good as it was last year, simple as that!
The tyre divide can be seen at all the races and can be evidenced by how far back some really good riders are!
I'd imagine Michelin will be back on form by the end of the year.....too late no doubt for Rossi.

But that's assuming the only reason for that is the new tyre rule, you sure it doesn't have anything to do with them going to 800's?

I say its a combination of both, the michelin teams (yamaha and honda) have both been found lacking in bike and the tyre game has just accentuated this. Next year when the bikes have a bit more development and michelin have better data to go off we will probably see a change in the balance of power. This year is certainly the Stoner/Duke/Bridgy show, they got all three elements spot on. All the other teams have 1 or 2 aspects right but not all three.

[rwh]

Newbie question:

Do the rules require a team to keep the same tyre manufacturer for an entire season? If not, it would seem to be a good idea to avoid having a tyre manufacturer for a sponsor, so you can actually choose the right tyre for the job - hell, run different makes at each end if it works ...

Richard

[Skunk]

Rossi is verbal about the rules because it is letting the fans down.
The racing isn't as good as it was last year, simple as that!
The tyre divide can be seen at all the races and can be evidenced by how far back some really good riders are!
I'd imagine Michelin will be back on form by the end of the year.....too late no doubt for Rossi.

Two years ago the reverse was true - if you had Bridgestones you had the losers tyre. Bridgestones upped their game and now have the better tyre. No need to change the rules. The tyre makers are in the race as well.