Chivalry is well and truly dead.

[Mystery]

I'm sorry to hear that this happened, unbelievable!!

I'm sure there were a lot of people that saw your wife and knew they should offer up their seat, but just chose to put their blinkers on. Please know that not everyone is that selfish or thoughtless. If I was there, my seat would have been hers, no hesitation!

[Lissa]

I have to say when I was pregant I never got any special treatment from anyone.... I had a one year old and was quite pregant, carrying the child who had a tantrum and a couple of bag of groceries.... no help from anyone, just alot of comments about my naughty child!

I can say that if I was on the train I would have given my seat to anyone who might need it, old or pregant alike.. its sad other people cant think more of others.

[007XX]

I remember the days I used to catch a bus to work in Wellington, the kids never stood for adults and the men rarely ever stood for women. I think it is a shame!

Absolutely...What happened to good ol' fashioned courtesy, ethics, moralities that we all have been taught by our parents...well, I know mine did anyway.

My son is always complimented on how polite he is...He says "please" and "Thank you", and as he opens a door for a woman, he will say "ladies first"...most women will be looking like this

He's only ten, so it's not a matter of being old enough to know better.

[Deano]

Mind due isnt half of the hutt prego these days? lol (pt)

I can only claim responsibility for one !!

[KATWYN]

i think the moral on this is that living in cities, we are overloaded with demands on our sense of compassion, the stresses of dealing with a busy lifestyle and the everyday coping device in our heads just demands that we "shut down" the Give signal to selfishly reserve some for our own purposes.

sensory "shut down" That seems really logical. It still sucks though. I agree about rural as well.

[Toaster]

My son is always complimented on how polite he is...He says "please" and "Thank you", and as he opens a door for a woman, he will say "ladies first"...most women will be looking like this

He's only ten, so it's not a matter of being old enough to know better.

Now that is great to hear! I almost fell over the other day when a young child stopped and waited for me to walk through the door... so polite and I was hugely impressed.

I don't have children, but I know kids are tough to raise.... good on you for doing so well with your son.

[Mom]

I hate cities...

It has been 15 odd years since I was pregnant, but things were not that different back then, even though I live in a small town. Extremely big bellied, standing in a que at the supermarket checkout, the person behind me kept shunting me with her trolley muttering about moving up a bit. I eventually got fed up and turned around to let her see the reason for the gap between me and my trolley. This female did not even have the grace to look abashed when I pointed out that if I could have got closer I would have. Fuken SOAPs.

Sorry that your wife did not get the concern that she should have. Loud protests from other like minded people (us) when we see shit like that might help reverse the trend?

Good manners have gone out the window it seems.

[judecatmad]

Mrs Deano only has another 2 months before the due date of our first baby.

She catches the train to work into Wellington and back each day.

Yesterday she got on the train and all the seats were taken. She is obviously pregnant, yet not one person offered her their seat.

Yeah, same thing has happened to me twice this week - altho I can forgive people for thinking I'm just hugely fat at the moment cos I'm only 20 weeks.

Another thing that really gets me is kids remaining seated when adults are standing - one girl was on the train with her mother and the mother didn't bat an eyelid when people were standing around them both.

It's not just chivalry, it's respect for others' situations and plain old good manners.

[Trudes]

It's all about I'm afraid and not just here in NZ either.
While in Melbourne the hubby and I went to the movies, and I noticed a blind man was escorted into the theater before it began. Anyway, the movie ended and I noticed him still sitting there and nobody coming back in to escort him back out. So I went over and asked if he needed a hand. Walked him out and down to the ticket office, no worries, but what really amazed me was the amount of people who would not get out of our way! I mean the guy was obviously blind, cane, holding my arm, eyes closed... come on, yet still people walked directly at us and expected us to move! Fuckers!!

Deano, tell Mrs Deano to just sit on someones knee next time, then the bastards might learn some respect!

[Colapop]

Two things...
I always get up for women - pregnant or not. I don't know about chivalry, that's just respect. I make kids stand too. Even had one person tell me I shouldn't do that. They shut up real fast when I asked if they would give up their seat for the kid!

Ummm.... what does a blind man watch at the movies...?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I always get up for women

Go you good thing you!

[Trudes]

Two things...
I always get up for women - pregnant or not. I don't know about chivalry, that's just respect. I make kids stand too. Even had one person tell me I shouldn't do that. They shut up real fast when I asked if they would give up their seat for the kid!

Ummm.... what does a blind man watch at the movies...?

Good on you Col, we all already know you're a gem though!!
He was watching Transformers and then was going to the Fantastic Four movie and writing a review of them for a blind magazine of some sort, even he joked about a blind man going to the movies.

[Meanie]

Two things...
I always get up for women - pregnant or not. I don't know about chivalry, that's just respect. I make kids stand too. Even had one person tell me I shouldn't do that. They shut up real fast when I asked if they would give up their seat for the kid!

Ummm.... what does a blind man watch at the movies...?

Nice one Colapop i have to admit i would do the same, but i think that was drumed into us as children, all about respect. Younger generation nowdays dont seem to have the same values Growing up in a small town taught you different values too, most people you came across every day wernt strangers How many people do you know in a big city
Such a shame that no one gave your wife a seat and good on the conducter and the woman who gave up her seat

[Skyryder]

Yes it is well and truly dead. It's the sort of thing I use notice when bus driving.

However one thing that use to stand out is the number of times asian woman would offer their seats. The men.............never. As for out youth.............on very very rare occasions...............and that was from street kids to the more respectable.

Skyryder

[Deano]

i think that was drumed into us as children, all about respect. Younger generation nowdays dont seem to have the same values

I think you have hit the nail on the head a bit there - what values do some parents instil these days, if any ? (And not just these days either - some of the guys on the train are older than me but obviously have different values)

However one thing that use to stand out is the number of times asian woman would offer their seats. The men.............never.

I noticed a distinct difference between male and female in the chinese culture when my mum had two chinese students staying with her. The girl would offer to help with dinner - the guy would watch tv until it was served, then wolf it down, then back to tv. The girl would clear his plate from the table, then help with dishes.