This is totally repugnant

[Mishy]

Carpe Deim
...No ,it isn't latin for "fish of the day"

Nice phrase - how about "Carpe Jugulum" ? that seems to be the mentality of some people.

[Wheeliemonsta]

Just this past week I supplied a set of front fork emulators to one of my service agents, for an SV650.

Part of the modification procedure when fitting emulators is to remove the internal damper rods and to overdrill the original damping holes ( and perhaps add more ) so that damping is no longer controlled in that way, the fitted emulator does so.

So the service agent removes the damper rods and hello, they are already overdrilled. The bike had been sold second hand to the unsuspecting rider, therefore the DROP KICK who owned it previously had removed the emulators to resell.

There is something real nasty in human nature that dictates where monetary gain over-rides other peoples safety. The damping control in standard SV forks is already woeful, to effectively make it several times worse ( by removing the emulators for resale ) is morally reprehensible and totally repugnant. And ignorance is no excuse

I hope this same guy doesnt work in the aircraft industry..........

Sadly Robert it is more prevalent than you would expect - I've had a similar experience recently with a second hand ZX10 front end that you had modified for the bikes previous owner, the bike was written off by a subsequent owner & the useable parts made available for sale...

The front end was then fitted to a friends race bike at some exspense where it peformed shockingly to the point where the bike was crashed at a round of last years Nationals

Upon pulling the forks down it was found that some ham fisted FU**WIT had been in there & removed all the Ohlins & Race Tech componentry fitted by your good selves & re-fitted, very poorly, I might add the original parts - one of the fork legs effectively had no rebound as it had been assembled (if thats what you'd like to call it...) incorrectly & parts damaged...

Of course we were sold the front end as having "All the good stuff fitted"

This sort of blatant disregard for the saftey of others shits me to tears - as it effectively ended our Nationals season that year...

(And if said "HAM FISTED FU**WIT is reading this; you desreve to be shot with serveral balls of your own shit )

Cheers

[Robert Taylor]

Sadly Robert it is more prevalent than you would expect - I've had a similar experience recently with a second hand ZX10 front end that you had modified for the bikes previous owner, the bike was written off by a subsequent owner & the useable parts made available for sale...

The front end was then fitted to a friends race bike at some exspense where it peformed shockingly to the point where the bike was crashed at a round of last years Nationals

Upon pulling the forks down it was found that some ham fisted FU**WIT had been in there & removed all the Ohlins & Race Tech componentry fitted by your good selves & re-fitted, very poorly, I might add the original parts - one of the fork legs effectively had no rebound as it had been assembled (if thats what you'd like to call it...) incorrectly & parts damaged...

Of course we were sold the front end as having "All the good stuff fitted"

This sort of blatant disregard for the saftey of others shits me to tears - as it effectively ended our Nationals season that year...

(And if said "HAM FISTED FU**WIT is reading this; you desreve to be shot with serveral balls of your own shit )

Cheers

And It might also have reflected on our name......

[Wheeliemonsta]

And It might also have reflected on our name......

No disrespect or ill will intended or implied Robert - the forks have now been sorted & are performing faultlessly...

However I can understand how this sort of carry on could possibly impact negatively on your good selves & the service you provide...

All the best for the new year & we'll see you round the traps in due course

Cheers

[White trash]

Just this past week I supplied a set of front fork emulators to one of my service agents, for an SV650.

Part of the modification procedure when fitting emulators is to remove the internal damper rods and to overdrill the original damping holes ( and perhaps add more ) so that damping is no longer controlled in that way, the fitted emulator does so.

So the service agent removes the damper rods and hello, they are already overdrilled. The bike had been sold second hand to the unsuspecting rider, therefore the DROP KICK who owned it previously had removed the emulators to resell.

There is something real nasty in human nature that dictates where monetary gain over-rides other peoples safety. The damping control in standard SV forks is already woeful, to effectively make it several times worse ( by removing the emulators for resale ) is morally reprehensible and totally repugnant. And ignorance is no excuse

I hope this same guy doesnt work in the aircraft industry..........

Time for a thread dredge.

The same forks mentioned above were pulled down yesterday for a bit of straightening. The mechanic working on the bike commented that whoever fitted the emulators hadn't drilled the damper rods at all, the hole sizes were factory.

I hope your previous service agent doesn't work in the aircraft industry.......

[roogazza]

[QUOTE=Drew;1167648]Hehehehe, in true loud mouth fashion, I STILL WOULDA BEEN UP THE FRONT. Kidding people, I am absolutely astonished that the bike was as ridable as it was, Both Andries and I had a ball./QUOTE]

well we would never know. I just spoke to the previous owner of the bike. He has bought the bike from brand new of WMCC. Took it for its firs 1000kms service there and done nothing to it since. He was then on his way home one night and lowsided. Picked the bike up and rode it home. Insurance told him to take it to the bikeshop to get it assesed. The bgike went to WMCC and they decided the bike has too many little things wrong with it and so written it off. The bike remained there while the previous owner negotiated with his insurance. He bought it off them and sold it to me and so picked it up from WMCC.So yes...It is possible that the shop changed them because the others were bent....my question would just be why? i mean, surely they would tell you that they have given you a free set of forks if that is in fact what they have done? i don't know..have to settle with the fact that I will never know.....it pisses me off a bit.

Time for a thread dredge.

The same forks mentioned above were pulled down yesterday for a bit of straightening. The mechanic working on the bike commented that whoever fitted the emulators hadn't drilled the damper rods at all, the hole sizes were factory.

I hope your previous service agent doesn't work in the aircraft industry.......

Man , that's a dredge. Maybe you shouldn't have with the MAS involved ? LOL !!!
ps Mr 7/10ths broken his duck ?????? I take it it's his?

[Deano]

Man , that's a dredge. Maybe you shouldn't have with the MAS involved ? LOL !!!
ps Mr 7/10ths broken his duck ?????? I take it it's his?

What are you on about Gaz ?

MAS ?

Duck ?

[Robert Taylor]

[QUOTE=roogazza;1129949280]

Hehehehe, in true loud mouth fashion, I STILL WOULDA BEEN UP THE FRONT. Kidding people, I am absolutely astonished that the bike was as ridable as it was, Both Andries and I had a ball./QUOTE]





Man , that's a dredge. Maybe you shouldn't have with the MAS involved ? LOL !!!
ps Mr 7/10ths broken his duck ?????? I take it it's his?

In fairness to that the SV650 rods already have relatively large damping holes and its not as critical as with other brands / models that have relatively tiny holes. The effective criteria is that the combined area of those holes exceeds the area of the bore diameter of the rod

[White trash]

In fairness to that the SV650 rods already have relatively large damping holes and its not as critical as with other brands / models that have relatively tiny holes. The effective criteria is that the combined area of those holes exceeds the area of the bore diameter of the rod

Negative. A total bulshit statement was made by someone with little experience at the time in order to make himself look more knowledgeable than he actually was. Neither the owner of the bike at that time, nor it's original owner could understand how it happened because it had never had emulators fitted.

Then the job wasn't even performed in the correct manner.

What the hell is up with that?

[Robert Taylor]

Negative. A total bulshit statement was made by someone with little experience at the time in order to make himself look more knowledgeable than he actually was. Neither the owner of the bike at that time, nor it's original owner could understand how it happened because it had never had emulators fitted.

Then the job wasn't even performed in the correct manner.

What the hell is up with that?

I guess Jimmy theres only one person that can answer that but would also be reluctant or cagey about doing so!

[sidecar bob]

I guess Jimmy theres only one person that can answer that but would also be reluctant or cagey about doing so!

This is one of the drawbacks of leaving ones excellent reputation in the hands of others.
For the last six months I have wrestled with the concept of taking on another technician. But since I got rid of the two I had, my comeback rate & general rate of personal head fuck has dropped to virtually zero, along with my wage bill.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Negative. A total bulshit statement was made by someone with little experience at the time in order to make himself look more knowledgeable than he actually was. Neither the owner of the bike at that time, nor it's original owner could understand how it happened because it had never had emulators fitted.

Then the job wasn't even performed in the correct manner.

What the hell is up with that?

And WMCC's name was thrown about, and made us out to be crooks and a danger to peoples lives because of it. Nice.

[roogazza]

What are you on about Gaz ?

MAS ?

Duck ?

Duck, as in 'breaking a duck'. I was guessing it was your bike and I see now that it was, (as in you have had your first race crash). But 5th in another race.

[Deano]

Duck, as in 'breaking a duck'. I was guessing it was your bike and I see now that it was, as you have had your first race crash. But 5th in another race.

Aha - I thought you were referring to a Duck, as in Ducati. LOL

Still haven't worked out what MAS means though - you young people and your crazy TXT lingo......

[roadracingoldfart]

Aha - I thought you were referring to a Duck, as in Ducati. LOL

Still haven't worked out what MAS means though - you young people and your crazy TXT lingo......

Hes always been dodgy Deano.