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    Lots of people on KB have been having mid corner traction problems lately. Probably reflects that the roads are still very cold despite improvements in the weather. I've also been advised by people that know about these things and MY riding ability, that tyres like super corsas aren't the go on the road. I don't ride aggressively enough to get them up to proper temperature, even with lowered air pressures. Apparently, during the winter there aren't many people that can keep them warm enough on the road. I dunno really but it makes sense to me.
    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivoris View Post
    Lots of people on KB have been having mid corner traction problems lately. Probably reflects that the roads are still very cold despite improvements in the weather. I've also been advised by people that know about these things and MY riding ability, that tyres like super corsas aren't the go on the road. I don't ride aggressively enough to get them up to proper temperature, even with lowered air pressures. Apparently, during the winter there aren't many people that can keep them warm enough on the road. I dunno really but it makes sense to me.
    Just my 2 cents.
    Yup, was far from pushing it so I was surprised how warm they were when I stopped for coffee, probably well short of what they're designed for though. Duno what the brother had on the ZZR but he's obviously more confident with them than I had reason to be on the Buell. Tyre recommendation for sub-optimal conditions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Yup, was far from pushing it so I was surprised how warm they were when I stopped for coffee, probably well short of what they're designed for though. Duno what the brother had on the ZZR but he's obviously more confident with them than I had reason to be on the Buell. Tyre recommendation for sub-optimal conditions?
    This is always a hoary (sp?) old chestnut. Can't let that stop me blathering on though I had a set of Conti Sport Attacks that were confidence inspiring in most conditions until the rear started wearing funny, and wore out at lower than expected smileage. I suspect that the problem may have occurred because I couldn't bring myself to run the recommended pressures (4-6 psi higher than usual). Still, they were good while they lasted. I had a good run out of some Avon Vipers on my SV1000. I don't get on with Dunlops. I love the Super Corsas on my Honda 400 so am trying out some Diablos. Not enough mileage yet though to have a proper opinion. Many guys whose opinion I value rave about Michelin Pilot Powers but I didn't like some of the characteristics of the Pilot Sports ( I found them to be to unsettled by surface changes). You wont get much more than 4-5,000km out of a rear anyway so you will get to try a few combinations There must be a few Buell riders out there with suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivoris View Post
    This is always a hoary (sp?) old chestnut.
    'Swot I like, a difinitive answer. Tyre talk's good to start a fight with bikers every time. Cheers dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clivoris View Post
    I don't ride aggressively enough to get them up to proper temperature, even with lowered air pressures. Apparently, during the winter there aren't many people that can keep them warm enough on the road.
    I wouldn’t think you’d find a tyre that relies on the nature of compound grip (heat) to work on the open road in the wet, in winter. That’s why tyres have groves (tread), to move the water away to give the tyre a chance to work.
    Dropping the tyre presser actually closes the tread and makes it more difficult to get grip out of your tyre - Just my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clivoris View Post
    guys whose opinion I value rave about Michelin Pilot Powers but I didn't like some of the characteristics of the Pilot Sports ( I found them to be to unsettled by surface changes). You wont get much more than 4-5,000km out of a rear anyway
    Apparently tyres with higher silicon properties grip better especially in lower temperatures, but wear out quicker.
    Duel compound tyres are suppose to give you the best of both worlds, higher silicon value when you lean and need more grip, longer wear value when you’re straight up and down. I’ve already done 4000 k’s and not even half worn yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    I wouldn’t think you’d find a tyre that relies on the nature of compound grip (heat) to work on the open road in the wet, in winter. That’s why tyres have groves (tread), to move the water away to give the tyre a chance to work.
    For sure. I wasn't even thinking about the wet. Just thinking about cold but dry roads. If half the hype is to be believed, even those single compound pilot powers are the good stuff for fast warm-up, grip and wear.

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    Thumbs up Interesting write up.

    Thanks for a most interesing write up. Agree with what Scumdog said about the English! (That is a worry.) Very nice bike. Pity you can't keep thye KLR. Thanks again. Cheers
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    i just got some m3sportec dual compound on the gix and must say very impresed, it rained on way home (not as cold here as u guys....) but was very impressed at the performace and feedback which equaled confidence in the wet like ive never had before.


    never tried pirellis or nefing but wont be in a hurry to when the time comes simply because im content with the M3's.

    oh yer queensland roads are alot different to yours temp and all......but was pissin rain tonight first time in a while so all the crap came up.

    bring on sunny days....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Oh stop it with the big eyes and chin quivering... Here, your daily porn fix:
    Oh yeah, that's done it for me!

    That's just awesome, Ocean1. For once, I'm even speechless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CADanimal View Post
    For once, I'm even speechless.
    That's 'cause you don't have the genetically conferred linguistic fortitude of the original recipient dude.
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    Fark, now I'm speechless AND bewildered!
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    nice write up - thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Including the universe and everything?
    The answer is.....46.

    Funny, I thought it was 42! Or did I just miss out again...

    Yeah, good write up! Even if it's a bit old now. Then so'm I, so I guess we're even!
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    I have only just picked up on this thread O-1, what a great write up!

    I have to say that the Buell "Ulysses" has always smoked my tyres, I don't know why, it just does!

    Unfortunately, my wallet doesn't smoke to that degree!

    I realise yours is not a Ulysses but it is a Buell and they do have that certain appeal.

    Congratulations on your new bike, I hope you have a great run with it. Cheers, John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    I have only just picked up on this thread O-1, what a great write up!

    I have to say that the Buell "Ulysses" has always smoked my tyres, I don't know why, it just does!

    Unfortunately, my wallet doesn't smoke to that degree!

    I realise yours is not a Ulysses but it is a Buell and they do have that certain appeal.

    Congratulations on your new bike, I hope you have a great run with it. Cheers, John.
    Thank you John, I'm enjoying it so far.

    And yes, I did look at the Ulysses but I'm from the dirt, and it's so far from what I'm used to for that purpose as to be near useless (for me). Much as the Ulysses has it's good points I think your bike is a better compromise for NZ.

    I may get an old dirt beater and turn it into a silk purse, (just for the odd dirt caper), but I've never really believed there's an adequate compromise which does either job well enough to be worthwhile. The closest might be a superduke which transforms from Adv to R at the push of a button, on the fly so to speak. Maybe next season eh? If so I'll be in the queue.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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