Personal responsibility, what's happened?

**Joni** · 14th August 2007, 12:23

Stand up the dinosaurs .... and be proud!

**Angusdog** · 14th August 2007, 12:26

All the dinosaurs are petrol now. Which fuels these fast cars which are killing our youth, so it's actually dinosaurs' fault.

**Mekk** · 14th August 2007, 12:27

It's also a shame that these sort of values are considered prehistoric, in my opinion.

Part of it though is acknowledging that we share the world with some fuckwits...and not inviting them to tea parties! Muahahaha!

**McJim** · 14th August 2007, 12:28

Originally Posted by Angusdog

All the dinosaurs are petrol now. Which fuels these fast cars which are killing our youth, so it's actually dinosaurs' fault.

Stop it! This is a mutual back slapping thread.

Incidentally a lot of the self confessed dinosaurs are quite young too - proving my point that not all the kids (i.e. people younger than 30) are bad after all.

**Animal** · 14th August 2007, 12:47

Originally Posted by 007XX

Yep, exactly!!!!

I'd be a Veloceraptor, me thinks...

And I'm perfectly ok with that...

What kind of dinosaur would be slow, confused and incredibly boring? I'd be one of them.

**Mystery** · 14th August 2007, 12:53

Originally Posted by McJim

The problem seems worse than it is. The actions of the few get sensationalised by the media and we have that knee jerk response to blame an entire segment of humanity.

It's like saying all Christians are Americans for example we know it's not true but it's easy to say.

There are plenty of responsible young people out there - you just don't meet them coz they don't break the rules, hang around street corners or go joy riding. I remember thugs and boy racers in Falkirk in the 1970's with EXACTLY the same blame others attitude. Those thugs would now be in their 50's.

Nothing has changed. Not even the older generation saying "Sheesh...the kids of today......."

Don't get me wrong though - I don't condone the blame culture - it's just that I can see it's not as rife as it appears.

Well said McJim, I agree 100%!

**007XX** · 14th August 2007, 14:56

Originally Posted by CADanimal

What kind of dinosaur would be slow, confused and incredibly boring? I'd be one of them.

I doubt that very much somehow...

But if you insist, maybe a Megalodon?...much sharper than they appeared...

**Animal** · 14th August 2007, 16:00

Originally Posted by 007XX

I doubt that very much somehow...

But if you insist, maybe a Megalodon?...much sharper than they appeared...

But not a megalodong. I wouldn't qualify!

Ah fuck, I do crack myself up when I'm drunk!

**terbang** · 14th August 2007, 16:44

Yup, another baby boomer dinosaur here. Hah what do they call em, Pterada..Terradact..? Anyway, the flying jobbies. I can't help but think that it is partly as a result of the type of PC, welfare cotton wool society that we live in. ACC is a good concept but it can encourage an irresponsible, 'she'll be right the state will look after me and they can't sue me' type behaviour too. Dunno if the Yanks have it right either though I guess there are those there who are more aware of the consequences of their own actions. Spent a bit of time in the third world too and I observed that people there certainly had to take responsibility for their own direction. If they didn't, they were dead. Life there is hard though, and it can become dog eat dog as people do what they can to survive and arn't too lazy about it either. Funny thing, people in the third world don't seem to moan any more than people do in our world and in fact, probably a bit less and I saw more smiles in some of the more desperate parts, than I see down town Auckland. However, life and death in the third world seems to hold a bit less value than what we see around here as well.

**peasea** · 14th August 2007, 17:11

Originally Posted by CADanimal

What kind of dinosaur would be slow, confused and incredibly boring? I'd be one of them.

Kiwious Bikersorearse?

**peasea** · 14th August 2007, 17:19

Originally Posted by terbang

Funny thing, people in the third world don't seem to moan any more than people do in our world and in fact, probably a bit less and I saw more smiles in some of the more desperate parts, than I see down town Auckland. However, life and death in the third world seems to hold a bit less value than what we see around here as well.

Good points. I recently watched a marathon 220min DVD about these clowns who took a bunch of vintage cars from 'Peking to Paris'. To cut a long story short (great adventure doco btw) it seemed that the happiest people these adventurers ran into were the poorest. The Mongols, for example, were happy-as yet had not much more (in the material sense) than the clothes they stood up in, a tent or two, a horse and a knife, yet they still shared their food and managed hugs and smiles for their guests.

Try hugging a stranger and sharing your lunch in down-town-anywhere NZ and watch the faces; they'd think you were nuts and likely call the cops.

It'd be ok though coz you'd get counselling and a benefit......

**ali** · 14th August 2007, 18:09

And everone thought that dinosaurs were extinct, there are enough here to re-populate the planet.

I feel increasingly sorry for our professionals.

If a doctor makes a mistake, we want to fry him, even if he's had to work a 100 hour week.

If we get caught speeding, it's not our fault because the cops are only "revenue gatherers"

If another child gets murdered, it's social welfares (CYFS ) fault for not noticing earlier.

The list goes on

How do we get our kids to take responsibility, when most of the adult population wont ?

**mashman** · 12th October 2013, 07:27

Originally Posted by 007XX

At the risk of over simplifying matters, isn't it just about being able to assess right from wrong and having the balls, backbone, whatever it is, to say:

" I will do the right thing here, even if it is the hardest thing to be done, ever".

Then take responsabilty for it, as it is what you believe to be the right thing...

Best post in the thread. Most people wouldn't know personal responsibility if it came up and bit them in the arse. They're too busy playing around the edges of the "rules". As long as I am not breaking a law, I must be personally responsible. That attitude sure as shit isn't personal responsibility. If there were personal responsibility we'd have addressed the problems that society has. We don't, we merely put money into a central pot and claim that we have done out bit, then turn around a rip some fucker off because we don't their accent or the colour of their skin or their belief system etc... and all because they are within their LEGAL rights to do so. This is not personal responsibility, it's a legal responsibility. Balls and backbone are not required in a society where your behaviour is excused under the word of law.