Looks like 80 dont work either

[rodgerd]

Thats a rather nice piece of road (except for the bike getting sea spray on it). That road, in a cage, is more than safe at 100, in a bike, well I'd feel happy in EXCESS of 120. So I truly don't believe it's the speed. And as for people drifting over the centre line? There are centre lines in thousands of other places in NZ, so why is this a higher accident spot than others?

My best guess would be that it's slightly narrower than most SH's, and since it's closer to Wgtn, than say Auck, drivers from Auck or wherever, would be getting tired while passing through there. I think it would make a considerable difference if people DID actually take rest stops, and share driving if possible.

My experience when I used to go up and down that stretch semi-regularly was that fuckwits heading north would come hooning down the hill out of the restricted speed zone on the hill, and it was common for morons going both ways to overtake where it wasn't sensible.

[Pwalo]

All they have to do is stay on their own side of the road, its really not that hard to do.

Well said. Still can't understand how a lot of accidents occur. I'm sure that a lot of cage drivers have never been taught to look as far ahead as possible, not fixate on the vehicle in front of them, and plan an escape route (ok not a lot of choice on SH1).

Roads, lamposts etc don't tend to move a lot.

[Hitcher]

Instead of cheesecutter barrier, why not use the same flexible marker pegs that go on the side of the highway, but down the middle? They would make a great flacking noise when hit by a car, provide a visual psychological barrier and not hinder emergency vehicles.

[Blakamin]

Instead of cheesecutter barrier, why not use the same flexible marker pegs that go on the side of the highway, but down the middle? They would make a great flacking noise when hit by a car, provide a visual psychological barrier and not hinder emergency vehicles.

Thats probably the best idea yet... move up here and vote for you for mayor!

[Pwalo]

Instead of cheesecutter barrier, why not use the same flexible marker pegs that go on the side of the highway, but down the middle? They would make a great flacking noise when hit by a car, provide a visual psychological barrier and not hinder emergency vehicles.

It's got to be better than a cheesecutter, or trying to put a solid barrier. Remarkably lucid for a Tuesday.

[Ghost Lemur]

I gotta agree, that's a damn on to it idea Hitcher.

Or what about those "rumble strips"? Wouldn't have the same psychological effect, but would have the noise effect. They use them down here on the sides of the roads south out of Christchurch for a weeways. Think they were a trial, dunno if they've resulted them yet.

[Blakamin]

I gotta agree, that's a damn on to it idea Hitcher.

Or what about those "rumble strips"? Wouldn't have the same psychological effect, but would have the noise effect. They use them down here on the sides of the roads south out of Christchurch for a weeways. Think they were a trial, dunno if they've resulted them yet.

they've got them but they obviously arent working either

[jimbo600]

Instead of cheesecutter barrier, why not use the same flexible marker pegs that go on the side of the highway, but down the middle? They would make a great flacking noise when hit by a car, provide a visual psychological barrier and not hinder emergency vehicles.

The best way to ensure safe cage drivers is to place a sharp metal spike protruding from the steering column aiming at the drivers head. You can bet your bottom dollar that they'll drive damn careful then. Keep 'em tuned in to what they're doing.

[scumdog]

The best way to ensure safe cage drivers is to place a sharp metal spike protruding from the steering column aiming at the drivers head. You can bet your bottom dollar that they'll drive damn careful then. Keep 'em tuned in to what they're doing.

That old chestnut was in the papers a few (lot) of years ago, everybody took it as gospel that it was for real and a lot of flack flew for a couple of weeks, still a good idea though cos it would bloody work

[jimbo600]

That old chestnut was in the papers a few (lot) of years ago, everybody took it as gospel that it was for real and a lot of flack flew for a couple of weeks, still a good idea though cos it would bloody work

Only been in NZ since Feb 97. A mate in UK suggested it and I thought it was a top idea. Piss you off if you dropped ya fags on the floor and went to pick them up and get a spike in the eye.

[Lou Girardin]

Look you lot, you know that the only reason people crash is speeding. We've been told often enough.
Why, just the other day a young father took off with his infant daughter after a fight with his wife. He crashed into a tree, killed himself and injured the baby. A Police spokes-genius said "speed was a factor". Not the emotional upset or even autocide, nope the company line is 'always blame speed'.
I thought that when they got rid of the old Police helmets, the incidence of brain cell damage through overheating was reduced.
In some cases, it appears not.

[scumdog]

Look you lot, you know that the only reason people crash is speeding. We've been told often enough.
Why, just the other day a young father took off with his infant daughter after a fight with his wife. He crashed into a tree, killed himself and injured the baby. A Police spokes-genius said "speed was a factor". Not the emotional upset or even autocide, nope the company line is 'always blame speed'.
I thought that when they got rid of the old Police helmets, the incidence of brain cell damage through overheating was reduced.
In some cases, it appears not.

Nice troll Lou - a bit puerile though even for you!!

Surprisingly a lot of the public think "speed as a factor" or "excessive speed" mean exceeding the speed limit! - like when a guy low sides into an oncoming truck because he went into a 55km corner at about 80km on a wet road, you would be surprised at the number of people that'll say "but it's the open road and he was only doing 80km so how can they blame speed?" like, DUH!!!!

[spudchucka]

Look you lot, you know that the only reason people crash is speeding. We've been told often enough.
Why, just the other day a young father took off with his infant daughter after a fight with his wife. He crashed into a tree, killed himself and injured the baby. A Police spokes-genius said "speed was a factor". Not the emotional upset or even autocide, nope the company line is 'always blame speed'.
I thought that when they got rid of the old Police helmets, the incidence of brain cell damage through overheating was reduced.
In some cases, it appears not.

You really are getting desperate. If speed was a factor does that mean that it was the ultimate cause? No! It means it was a factor, something that contributed to the cause of the crash or the damage done in the crash.

But you just hear what you want to hear and have the audacity to accuse the police as an organisation, all 7000 or so of them of having brain cell damage.

[rodgerd]

Instead of cheesecutter barrier, why not use the same flexible marker pegs that go on the side of the highway, but down the middle? They would make a great flacking noise when hit by a car, provide a visual psychological barrier and not hinder emergency vehicles.

The problem is that you're assuming the asshats crossing the centre line aren't aware of what they're doing - a lot of them are running ragged across lanes because they're going too fast, or passing where they shouldn't.

[sAsLEX]

Only been in NZ since Feb 97. A mate in UK suggested it and I thought it was a top idea. Piss you off if you dropped ya fags on the floor and went to pick them up and get a spike in the eye.

Anyone seen Final Destination 2?? That has an airbag impaleing sp? some woman