2008 Hyosung GT250R - Fuel injected

**bonus** · 29th October 2007, 13:27

Originally Posted by bonus

i still dont think its injected tho, i just bought a 2007 GT250R Yesterday, and asked about the injected models, was told that australia have snapped them up but nz wont be getting them until 2009, nz are goin to keep a close eye on australia and see if there are any teething problems with the new fuel injection system before we get em here

Funny how people dont pay attention!

**dave_a** · 29th October 2007, 14:45

Originally Posted by delusionz

Hyosung's Oil burner doesn't put out squat compared to Kawasaki's liquid cooled twin. You'll realise that when you get your hands on the next ninja (if you ever do) which I heard they aren't bringing into NZ.

You are right though, 2007 Hyosung looks better than 2007 Ninja, Thats obvious, but theres always some tradeoffs, but personally I wouldn't trade Kawasaki for Hyosung nor would I trade the quality, reputation, nimbleness, lightness, easy handling, power and maneuverability for just looks.

My old man knows someone very well in kawasaki and the 08 ninja will definatly be coming around the start of next year and the price tag is very very appealing

**Weaver** · 29th October 2007, 19:21

Originally Posted by delusionz

personally I wouldn't trade Kawasaki for Hyosung nor would I trade the quality, reputation, nimbleness, lightness, easy handling, power and maneuverability for just looks.

POWER!!! Your kidding right. Its a four stroke 250

**HTFU** · 29th October 2007, 19:40

08 ninja will definatly be coming around the start of next year and the price tag is very very appealing

Go on then......$

**delusionz** · 29th October 2007, 22:50

Originally Posted by Weaver

POWER!!! Your kidding right. Its a four stroke 250

Are you trying to tell me GPX's rated 38HP vs Hyo's rated 28HP is all false? And that the GPX is not liquid cooled nor has bigger carbs & higher compression?

**xwhatsit** · 29th October 2007, 23:43

Liquid cooled? Who gives a shit?

All liquid cooling allows you is more engineering tolerances so you can build a higher revving/compression motor.

Part of the reason why the GPX has 38 claimed horsepower.

However 38hp out of an aircooled motor would be a hell of a lot better. Less maintenance -- but more importantly less weight, better aerodynamics, less to fail.

Bigger carbs and higher compression are nothing to brag about either. All they allow you is the 38hp; other than that they don't mean squat.

The GT250R and the GPX250 are both good solid commuting bikes. Neither are leagues ahead of the other. Delusionz, I understand the passion for your bike -- hell I love my little CB250RS, which most for most people isn't very exciting -- but there's no need to shit all over other people's rides, especially when yours isn't especially better.

**delusionz** · 29th October 2007, 23:53

xerxesdaphat I was just stating the differences as to why I chose it. And retorting to claims that it doesn't have more 10 more HP and that it's ugly.

I think facts are better to work with than "shitting" on bikes..

I never said Hyosungs a POS and only homos ride it or whatever as thats no reason to choose one over another... Hard facts about what it has what it doesn't have, What it does what it doesn't do are better reasons.

Now back to what I came to this thread to ask, Why would you trade an 07 carbed for an 08 FI? Theres probably no noticeable difference and you would probably be paying atleast an extra 1k maybe 2

**TOTO** · 30th October 2007, 00:34

Originally Posted by dave_a

considering you gpx 250 is so much faster

atleast a hyo looks good rather than a gpx which is one of the ugliest bikes ever made,and we all know 250's arent made for their speed

And no I dont have a hyo Im actualy waiting for the new ninja 250 to come out

one thing I dont understand Is , why they do not suppply the 250 ninja in Kawaka Lime green ? at least there is a silver one coming our way which I think is much more beautiful than the BLAAACK hope they get the green , one can only hope. do you know how much is does repainting if fairings cost ?

**Pancakes** · 30th October 2007, 10:10

Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat

Liquid cooled? Who gives a shit?

All liquid cooling allows you is more engineering tolerances so you can build a higher revving/compression motor.

Part of the reason why the GPX has 38 claimed horsepower.

However 38hp out of an aircooled motor would be a hell of a lot better. Less maintenance -- but more importantly less weight, better aerodynamics, less to fail.

Bigger carbs and higher compression are nothing to brag about either. All they allow you is the 38hp; other than that they don't mean squat.

The GT250R and the GPX250 are both good solid commuting bikes. Neither are leagues ahead of the other. Delusionz, I understand the passion for your bike -- hell I love my little CB250RS, which most for most people isn't very exciting -- but there's no need to shit all over other people's rides, especially when yours isn't especially better.

AMEN!

I'll dicuss the pro's and con's of different 250's till the cows come home but refuse to have POWER be a deciding factor! If you want power and your criteria for a bike is cost, style and weight to (over?) simplify things get a friggen 400! or a 600 which are really light too these days and they'll be newer than most 250's the same price too the way our crapped up learner market is being choked by dealers etc at the moment.

Delusions, to calculate speed on a 250 you don't need to know the max power as much as the average power in the revs you use in each gear. Did you see Top Gear where they got an EVO 9 and a 1600cc diesel Nissan Station wagon and had a drag race from idle? The wagon got to the end of the runway before the Evo came on boost! If you look at a dyno map the time taken for a car to reach a certain speed is dictated by the area under the curve in the graph not the peak power. Statistics. I'm not saying I know which bikes faster cos I haven't lined two of them up or seen any stats on 0-100 times etc but don't be fooled by thinking one number on the spec sheet tells the whole story.

I was also temped to say next time I see you I'm gonna cane your ass on my bike with 3/4 of the power but I won't.

**delusionz** · 30th October 2007, 11:36

Well I started on a 50cc as it was the only thing I could drive with my license at the time, I thought I would just pass the 2 wheeler phase upon getting a restricted car license but something happened and I fell in love with motorbikes and all of a sudden didn't really give a shit about cars anymore so I went and got my bike learners, Maybe from that you could understand why I wanted power because at that stage I had no idea about bikes and all I could think of was how fucking slow scooters are.

PS. Don't forget 250cc's don't have a 130kph first gear, So you can take them up to peak power within a few metres but yeah even then theres no G's when you pull.

TBH the main thing for me wasn't the higher output, but was a pleasant surprise hence I didn't list it first. It was more the fact that when I jumped on a GT250R I couldn't move it anywhere, Then jumped on the GPX, and wheeled it out and about while sitting on it with the engine off, I knew which one I was getting.

Some people above really know how to pick things out of context dude. It was never about power alone, ofcourse If it was I would have gotten a 2nd hand 2 smoker or an IL4

**Weaver** · 30th October 2007, 19:33

Originally Posted by delusionz

Are you trying to tell me GPX's rated 38HP vs Hyo's rated 28HP is all false? And that the GPX is not liquid cooled nor has bigger carbs & higher compression?

Originally Posted by delusionz

Some people above really know how to pick things out of context dude. It was never about power alone, ofcourse If it was I would have gotten a 2nd hand 2 smoker or an IL4

It seems that you have taken what I said out of centext. What I was getting at in regards to power is that, when its such a small amout, weather it be 28 or 38, its not worth even talking about. LIke Pancakes said, if you want power, get a bigger bike.

Anyway, at the end of the day it comes down to how the bike feels to you.

**dave_a** · 31st October 2007, 12:18

price on the new ninjas will now be around 9 grand maybe abit less

and MIGHT be here by christmas

Plus Im prety sure there only coming in green but well see

**delusionz** · 31st October 2007, 12:56

Originally Posted by dave_a

price on the new ninjas will now be around 9 grand maybe abit less

and MIGHT be here by christmas

Plus Im prety sure there only coming in green but well see

No idea where these rumours are coming from but why doesn't Kawasaki NZ list it on their website yet along with their other 2008 models... and Why the hell does Kawasaki AU list the GPX250R under supersport along the ZX-6R, 10R & 14R?