SAFE - Security options?

**Disco Dan** · 5th September 2007, 15:27

What are your thoughts on a safe for the home or small office?

What sort of money should you pay?
What features would you expect? Fire ratings?
What features do you need?

What makes a good safe? Combination lock? Key? Electronic?

Where to put it? In view but secure? Out of sight? Floor? The classic "behind the painting"?

Anybody do this sort of thing for a living? Either side of the law..

Example one
Example two
Example three

**Kiwifire72** · 5th September 2007, 15:34

Just let her go its no use locking her away in a safe she will break out and run off with that other man or woman no matter how you try to lock her away
Oh sorry you weren't meaning the wife or GF to lock away lol
We just been overseas and stayed in a nice hotel and a resrt and they just had those small electronic safes in the wardrobes small but ok for passports etc and items up to about shoe box size
we were happy with place stuff in them
you can bolt them to floor wall etc
Ring your local prison they maybe able to get you some good advice lol

**Her_C4** · 5th September 2007, 15:54

Originally Posted by Kiwifire72

Ring your local prison they maybe able to get you some good advice lol

I can't imagine what yoiu think that they need them for???

Recalcitrant inmates perhaps?

Actually have been thinking about a safe myself, and have a couple of requirements:

1. Must be fully fire proof (not all safes are apparently!)
2. Must be too heavy to lift and carry away in a burg
3. Has to be a pretty colour

**Kiwifire72** · 5th September 2007, 16:01

Originally Posted by Her_B4

I can't imagine what yoiu think that they need them for???

Recalcitrant inmates perhaps?

Actually have been thinking about a safe myself, and have a couple of requirements:

1. Must be fully fire proof (not all safes are apparently!)
2. Must be too heavy to lift and carry away in a burg
3. Has to be a pretty colour

PINK???????
lol

Prisoners will tell you which safe hard to break into lol

**ManDownUnder** · 5th September 2007, 16:05

Heavy
Able to bolt the bastard down (which saves people from being able to put things under it to lift it too)
Key lock or combination lock. Electronic locks are nice but a pain when the batteries run low

Fireproof ideally but you pay a fortune for one of those

**Sanx** · 5th September 2007, 16:16

It's all very well asking what features we would look for, but really you should be asking yourself what features you need.

Work out what you're going to be protecting, then work out how much it would cost you to replace it. There's your budget. It's pointless spending $1000 on a safe to protect a $100 asset. Cheaper to just buy another one if it gets stolen.

There's usually a direct proportional relationship between security and cost. THe more expensive it is, the better the security. The cheaper it is, the easier it'll be to break into or steal. You need to work out at what point along the cost / security line you need.

**mdooher** · 5th September 2007, 16:19

Grab a second hand post office safe (about the size of a small filing cabinet) if you can get one. They are fire-proof, too heavy to lift (well for me anyway) and can be bolted down. Any locksmith can change the key for you. They also look quite nice painted black.

**Disco Dan** · 5th September 2007, 16:59

Originally Posted by Sanx

It's all very well asking what features we would look for, but really you should be asking yourself what features you need.

Work out what you're going to be protecting, then work out how much it would cost you to replace it. There's your budget. It's pointless spending $1000 on a safe to protect a $100 asset. Cheaper to just buy another one if it gets stolen.

There's usually a direct proportional relationship between security and cost. THe more expensive it is, the better the security. The cheaper it is, the easier it'll be to break into or steal. You need to work out at what point along the cost / security line you need.

That makes sense.. but it also doesnt...

Say I wish to protect a $100 asset and purchase a $100 safe ...I then dont have $100 to put in safe! !!

**ManDownUnder** · 5th September 2007, 17:06

Consider a gun safe off trademe. I got one and they're brilliant. Cheap enough, large, and can be bolted down etc.

Not fire rated, but then they're cheap enough - did I mention agood price?

I'll try to find details for you if you want (they're $50 cheaper in person)

**Romeo** · 5th September 2007, 17:39

Does anyone see the irony in having a "Fire Proof" "Waco" safe? Anyways, I don't think I have a need for a safe, so consider a Pull marketing strategy where you inform people of all the reasons they need one - then they'll come to you.

**Holy Roller** · 5th September 2007, 18:53

Depending on what one needs to secure depends on the type and size. Different safes have a rateing level of how much $ wise one can store in them for insurance purposes.

**kave** · 5th September 2007, 19:14

Consider renting one. Safety deposit boxes can be rented in a range of sizes, starting at about $140 a year for 80mm * 120mm * 5100mm deep. Plus there is the added safety of your valuables being in a different building, and a multi million dollar security system.

**Swoop** · 5th September 2007, 21:40

"Example #1" the fireproof WACO....

Don't touch this.

Give me a sledge hammer and in 10 seconds it will be empty...

Get an old coin safe that the banks used to use. 10mm steel and about the same size as a small filing cabinet.
There was a place on Barrys Point Rd that used to sell them. A big warehouse building on the left (as you head down the road towards the motorway) which was full of second hand safes.