An opinion

**Lou Girardin** · 8th September 2007, 04:27

I'm posting this in here as a response to a thread in Senior Members because I want a wider membership to see it.
I can't bring myself to feel sorry for the hard done by Mods. I have been a member since the paleolithic age, I've seen the changes in KB, and they're not for the better.
It's clear that some Mods have used their position to advance their own agendas, and have ruined this site as a result.
For evidence, look at the number of long term members who rarely bother to post.
To delete a post that admonished someone for wishing another member was near death is simply pathetic.
This was a biker site. It is not www.teacherisalwaysright.com , or www.pedantsRus.com. It is also not Second Life (but to look at some avatars, one would think so).

**Kickaha** · 8th September 2007, 06:09

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I'm posting this in here as a response to a thread in Senior Members because I want a wider membership to see it.
I can't bring myself to feel sorry for the hard done by Mods. I have been a member since the paleolithic age, I've seen the changes in KB, and they're not for the better.

What changes are those?, because I thought getting rid of the few members who used this site to abuse others through the forums,via Pm or the rep system was a huge improvement and no other change that I've seen has affected the members as much as that, I'd say that the number of people that still visit this site every day and still post here indicates otherwise

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

It's clear that some Mods have used their position to advance their own agendas, and have ruined this site as a result.
For evidence, look at the number of long term members who rarely bother to post.

How about providing a bit of evidence to back up your statement because having a quick browse through the member list indicates there's a few members longer term than you who quite regularly still post here

So you're saying that not a single one of these long term members has stopped posting for any other reason? did you ever think they worked out there was a life beyond KB?

**Bren** · 8th September 2007, 06:14

Originally Posted by Kickaha

did you ever think they worked out there was a life beyond KB?

Shit....is there????? Tell me about it

**Grahameeboy** · 8th September 2007, 06:48

You are sad Lou, this is what you think about at 4 in the morning.

The membership has doubled since I joined and okay some leave, however, this does not indicate a decline in the sites popularity.

I note that you title - An Opinion to justify your thread....

Do you expect this site to be perfect, or conforming to your ideals......that's not life Lou.

Effectively you are bashing the very people who help run this site....

This must be another 'Repost'......Have a great weekend.

**Riff Raff** · 8th September 2007, 07:11

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

To delete a post that admonished someone for wishing another member was near death is simply pathetic.

No post have been deleted Lou. If you are talking about the posts that were in the 'Police Bike in Crash' thread then all posts by Katman and responses to his comment were put into a new thread:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=56472

They were not appropriate in the original thread, so I put them in a new thread so people could continue their discussion.

**Sniper** · 8th September 2007, 07:26

I can see where this is going

**chanceyy** · 8th September 2007, 07:37

IMHO this site is as popular as ever, quite frankly I can not be bothered with the bullshit threads & abuse that goes on .. I only tend to post in threads when i have something to say .. other than the rides thread cause thats our lil meeting room

at times there has been too much

crap going on & the site is a better place since that has eased off .. of course there are still

and quite frankly they just need to be

to show how tough they really are

this is a internet site for gawds sake there is a real world out there .. get out & enjoy it .. well its time to get ready for a

since its a

day I wanna make the most of it

so off on my

gonna enjoy the

of friends gonna

it

**Coaster** · 8th September 2007, 07:49

Since I started on permanent night shifts (2315 - 0845 hours) I have had way more time to look around the site and it is interesting because some people write about stuff that is important to them and hopefully to fellow kiwibikers and some people just use the site to

others!!

Guess what that's the real world and it goes on everywhere - in schools, work places and definitely in the BEEHIVE!

So that is my opinion

which being a democratic country I am free to make and now I am going to think about writing up my report for handover before I go home and going to bed

See you

**deanohit** · 8th September 2007, 08:01

Originally Posted by Kickaha

did you ever think they worked out there was a life beyond KB?

No no no I tell you

, we all know the truth, KBer is the world and it's flat and the sun revolves around it and your just spreading propaganda to brainwash us al!.

Lou, I see in your profile that you've been a member for 5 years. Things are always gonna change. I bet at the start you thought the changes were for the better.
I for one hopes KBer keeps changing as it's what keeps the site interesting.

**Grahameeboy** · 8th September 2007, 08:08

Originally Posted by chanceyy

IMHO this site is as popular as ever, quite frankly I can not be bothered with the bullshit threads & abuse that goes on .. I only tend to post in threads when i have something to say .. other than the rides thread cause thats our lil meeting room

at times there has been too much

crap going on & the site is a better place since that has eased off .. of course there are still

and quite frankly they just need to be

to show how tough they really are

this is a internet site for gawds sake there is a real world out there .. get out & enjoy it .. well its time to get ready for a

since its a

day I wanna make the most of it

so off on my

gonna enjoy the

of friends gonna

it

Nice day for a gallop Ms C...........

**RantyDave** · 8th September 2007, 08:37

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I can't bring myself to feel sorry for the hard done by Mods. I have been a member since the paleolithic age, I've seen the changes in KB, and they're not for the better.

Interesting post, and I'm very much in two minds about it.

There have been changes in KB, even over the relatively short time I've been here. I wouldn't consider myself a senior member. And I think they were for the worse, but I have a hard time blaming the mods for it. As I understand it, while the "old" KB was significantly less 'family friendly' and better for it there were a few members who took the opportunity to become really quite obnoxious through PM's in particular and this became a problem. What, really, are you supposed to do? I was never a victim of that and hence can't speak from experience, but I've never been a victim of the overbearing moderation either.

But something has changed. It's a lot less ... funny. Something has been destroyed and all statistics in the world aren't going to change that. I don't mind (at all) that people seem fit to treat KB as a cross between a psychiatrist, shortland street and an online confessional ... and it's not that which is causing KB's malaise. It's....

I dunno. You only need a little bit of chilli to make chilli con carne, but without it it's just meat and beans.

Dave

Edit: And yes, it is a nice day for a ride.