An internal dilemma

[RantyDave]

the position is less prestigious, the skill level of the work is lower as is the corporate management skill level required

No, fuck it. To be honest it sounds like you know what you're doing and are quietly looking - there'll probably be a better offer along at some point. Patience.

Dave

[Coaster]

That is what it keeps coming back to for me. I am lucky enough to still have grandparents around, I have my own parents who I see maybe two nights a week and I still have pre-teen sisters that deserve more of my attention. At the moment, they are lucky if they get a few hours a week combined. Can't take anything but my own soul with me when I leave this place and its a bit hard to share your toys when the people you want to share them with are gone.

You do not know what the future will bring so make the most of the present. Enjoy time with your family while you still have them. You have got another 40+ years left to work - don't burn yourself out at 23 by working such long hours that in the future you will turn around and say. What happened to my family - why didn't I spend more time with them while I had the chance.

Also think about what people would say about you if you died tomorrow - do you want to be remembered because you were a good worker! (but easily replaceable) or a good son, grandson, brother, husband (not replaceable)

[miSTa]

Toss a coin for it, if you don't the result you have your answer.

[Pillick]

Havent read the rest of the replies, but:

I'd start by explaining to the guys who offered the job why you aren't that keen. It doesnt seem like much of a step anywhere (and possibly a step backwards) so why take the job offer as it is? Being genuinely not interested in the offer is a great position to bargin from.

[Hitcher]

I must be missing something here. Why wouldn't you take the job that pays more money?

[Grahameeboy]

I must be missing something here. Why wouldn't you take the job that pays more money?

Money should not be the decider Mr H............

[vifferman]

The way you presented the situation made option 2 sound more attractive from most aspects. And as BarBender said (bloody good advice), you don't have to stay forever in the job; if it doesn't work out, move on. Unemployment is currently low, and I know from talking to my bro-in-law in the construction business that it's VERY hard to find people to fill roles like yours. If you're really torn, and aren't really sure you want to move on, then you have nothing to lose by approaching your current employers with your concerns (long hours etc.) and see if they are able to make any concessions in order to keep you.
Bear this in mind too: the aforementioned bro-in-law recently had a bit of a breakdown from too much stress and too much work. You're young and short-term this may be just an adrenaline boost that helps you to accomplish heaps, but if you're in the same situation as him, don't put up with it. A guy I worked with for 8 years basically got too stressed with work pressure and had a stroke. That was him fukt at 45.

[Hitcher]

Money should not be the decider Mr H...

Indeed. But given the scenarios as presented, I can't see why there's a choice. The second option sounds preferable to the first, in ways other than the money.

[Grahameeboy]

Indeed. But given the scenarios as presented, I can't see why there's a choice. The second option sounds preferable to the first, in ways other than the money.

I agree with that...........

[discotex]

Both jobs offer such potential, I am not unhappy now...but that doesn't warrant not accepting this new job. I AM TORN IN TWO. MY MIND CHANGES BY THE HOUR. What would you do?

Mate I feel your pain. In a similar situation myself. If I come up with a reliable way to decide I'll let ya know

[HenryDorsetCase]

Wifes an intern doctor. Got a few years stuck here yet mate.

suck it up till wifey is qualified in the "prestigious" job. then when wifey is earning the good coin, chuck in your job, and become a consultant, based on your experience at the "prestigious" firm, which will stand you in better stead than the easy option you're contemplating.

Long term view, grasshopper: take the long term view.

[puddy]

You are 23 and working a highly corporate position in the construction management industry at a mid management level.
Money is good, enough to get buy on
The hours are long, leave home 7am back home at 7:30ish in the evening, The work hours are less and the commute is only 10 mins as opposed to 1 hour each way. However, the position is less prestigious,

An hour commute each way........so,10-10.5 hour working days,lunch included. Remind me to tell 90% of the people that I know that they are working far too hard! HTFU........enough to get BY on..........are 23 and working a highly corporate position in the construction management industry at a mid management level..could you be any more vague, spit it out for fucks sake! Are you a Q S? Engineer? Bean Counter? You sound like you need a more creative environment, start your own company or go overseas. But if your wife has a student loan, be sure to pay it off. Or never come back. Remember, common labourers, rubbish collectors, and toilet cleaners pay taxes so that others can study at an already subsidised level to become mid level management types. The labourers etc don't get squat back. If the shoe fits........
Love and Kisses

[Brett]

An hour commute each way........so,10-10.5 hour working days,lunch included. Remind me to tell 90% of the people that I know that they are working far too hard! HTFU........enough to get BY on..........are 23 and working a highly corporate position in the construction management industry at a mid management level..could you be any more vague, spit it out for fucks sake! Are you a Q S? Engineer? Bean Counter? You sound like you need a more creative environment, start your own company or go overseas. But if your wife has a student loan, be sure to pay it off. Or never come back. Remember, common labourers, rubbish collectors, and toilet cleaners pay taxes so that others can study at an already subsidised level to become mid level management types. The labourers etc don't get squat back. If the shoe fits........
Love and Kisses

That is the average. Often times it is several hours on a saturday and some weeks the hours are much longer...and I dont take lunch breaks. Ever. Its not so much the quantity of hours as it is the quantity of work/stress in those hours. Ie from the minute the day kicks off, there are a million and one things to get done and everything is done at a million miles an hour. Not trying to say "oh look, poor me", shit there are many people out there working much longer hours than me. One bloke from the office regularly does 7:30am till 10:30pm.
The industry is professional project managment & construction development management. And it was done with no help from that god for nothing Helen Clark, I studied in the evenings for 3 years while working during the days. Point is mate, I am not afraid to work. I just also am aware that if I am gonna load myself up with stress and miss out on other things in life, then I had better really be enjoying what I do. Which I do not at present.

[Brett]

suck it up till wifey is qualified in the "prestigious" job. then when wifey is earning the good coin, chuck in your job, and become a consultant, based on your experience at the "prestigious" firm, which will stand you in better stead than the easy option you're contemplating.

Long term view, grasshopper: take the long term view.

Yeah I did wonder about that. However, at the end of the day I do not really want to work long term in what I am doing. I need something more creative. That is me now, who knows what happens in 5 years. Maybe I will mellow and become less creative and enjoy administration and process driven work.

[Brett]

Anyhow, made a call today and will be running with the new job. Door is still somewhat open for me at my current employer should I wish to return...might have to go back with cap in hand, but hey...its still there. Had to make a call and run with it.

Another main decider, was that I am about to start building a new house and the new job will allow me to save many thousands on material costs