Zaoui's back in town.

**caesius** · 13th September 2007, 23:45

For history's sake I've found an old (and I mean old) thread on this matter - when it first arose.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/ar...p/t-43764.html

**SPman** · 14th September 2007, 00:10

Originally Posted by caesius

I'm reading.

I see a lot of conspiracy theories against the British government and their "racist" agendas but no evidence.

No ones shooting off their reactionary mouths as far as I can see. Can I offer a contradictory argument SPman? What if a *European* arrived in our country and immediately destroyed their documentation? What then? What would be your opinion? Let them in?

If they were genuine refugees, yes. I see no problem, as long as they check out.
What is the hangup with destroying his documents? That has been a legitimate procedure for refugees, recognised as such by the UN and most countries around the world, including NZ, for decades!

Obviously, you haven't read much!

**Nasty** · 14th September 2007, 07:49

I listened to the news this morning .. and had to giggle ... "he won't be seeking an apology from the NZ government" .... bloody oath ... what would they apologise for. Come in illegally and pose security issues ... he knew that would pose issues .. the guy is not a moron ... and then have NZ pay his room and board for a few years .... now we welcome him to bring his family over ... interesting ... what work is he going to do to pay for everything ... is he employable ... or is he like most politicians a teacher, a lawyer or a farmer .... oh well .... Apologise ... hehehehe

**caesius** · 14th September 2007, 09:15

If they were genuine refugees, yes. I see no problem, as long as they check out.
What is the hangup with destroying his documents? That has been a legitimate procedure for refugees, recognised as such by the UN and most countries around the world, including NZ, for decades!

Obviously, you haven't read much!

I completely disagree there. I'm not arguing ad hominem SPman, I just can't see why this man should get so many tax dollars spent on him (more than most NZers) when they've been living here and paying taxes all their lives.

I can't see how destroying docs is a legitimate procedure - but yes, maybe I haven't done enough reading. But then I could say the same about a good proportion of the population that think NZ detained an innocent man for no reason.

Cheers.

**sisterecho** · 14th September 2007, 09:21

Trouble is, most NZers are basing their opinions on the snippets they see through the media. They don't have the full history but are happy to jump on the bandwagon anyway.

**Mr. Peanut** · 14th September 2007, 09:25

Talk is talk, I don't see anyone getting of their arses and doing anything.

I agree with the above sentiment, never met the guy, don't know the full story. My opinion has no weight.

**caesius** · 14th September 2007, 09:26

Trouble is, most NZers are basing their opinions on the snippets they see through the media. They don't have the full history but are happy to jump on the bandwagon anyway.

Which bandwagon? Going by readers responses on theherald.co.nz there are quite a few people who think he should have been turned away in the first place.

**Goblin** · 14th September 2007, 09:30

All would be ok if he were a wife beating overstayer in need of dialysis tho.

**Finn** · 14th September 2007, 09:30

This Government is hell bent on making sure NZ is the laughing stock of the world.

**tri boy** · 14th September 2007, 09:33

I'll just wait to read his overpriced book, and the dozens of Womans Day/New Idea interviews, then I, like the rest of NZ will focus on the next sensationalised issue.
Legal, or illegal immigrant, buggered if I know. Welcome aboard mate.
Don't take excess cockles, and you'll fit right in.

**doc** · 14th September 2007, 09:36

Originally Posted by caesius

He had convictions in France and Belgium for participating in and leading terrorist networks; had been deported from Switzerland, and excluded from the UK.

If that is true, what are we doing let him in ? The system is stuffed .

**Skyryder** · 14th September 2007, 10:14

Originally Posted by SPman

I, for one, am glad he has finally been vindicated. The whole farce has been a government and media cockup, if not stitchup from the start!

Before all you NZ first supporters really get your knickers in a twist, perhaps it would be a good idea to find out a bit of real information about the whole debacle - Gordon Campbell is doing a good series about him here.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0707/S00174.htm

But then - it's always better to just shoot yr reactionary mouths off, with opinions based on half baked, onesided, knee jerk, self serving distortions, currently served up as fact, by most politicians and their media cronies!

All the better to control you, m' dears..............

This man has cost the taxxpayer over two million dollars and still climbing. And he has not contributed one cent to our economy. Money that could have been better spent on those that realy need it. Go figure.

Skyryder

**Magua** · 14th September 2007, 10:23

I'd like to know why he's no longer considered a risk, but perhaps we'll never know.

Since he has been classed a genuine refugee, welcome aboard.

**Skyryder** · 14th September 2007, 10:31

Originally Posted by Magua

I'd like to know why he's no longer considered a risk, but perhaps we'll never know.

Since he has been classed a genuine refugee, welcome aboard.

It might have something to do with the fact that two of his collegues with the same political ties as Zaoui's have been allowed to settle in the USA. Whatever the reason something has changed. He will still be under survaliance by the SIS. That's the worrying bit. There is still some doubt.

Skyryder