Tornado Alley
"Blindly sniffing whatever dogs arse the media offers without investigating the truth yourself will always result in ignorance and stupidity." (Idles acceptance speech in his flame warrior thingy whatsit...)
The media offers the one and only one eyed neighbour mate in this saga and he is gospel to you... then you make such a grand acceptance speech.
I rest my case. Funny shit. The last word is donut...
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
I see the investigation into Police Group Think was spun by Greg O'Connor as some kind of vindication for the way cops act.
That one just goes to show what a bullshitter O'Connor (and his sycophants) are.
The report was scathing of Police investigating Police and particularly noted more than a hundred accusations of sexual abuse against Police that were NOT investigated by Police.
Now that reminds me of Patricks whine about only 4 cases ever being bought against the cops or some other bullshit.
Of course there's only been a few cases: cops look after cops regardless of the facts of the accusations.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Run away, the bogie man's here.......rotflmfao!Originally Posted by Mom
If you can be arsed, have a look at his posts recently, he was away for a bitthen came back. You will find an early returning one that says, he will even spout crap he does not believe to get a discussion going.....
Fortunately I wont see his reply to my post.
Sure, I'll play devils advocate. Debate is healthy and countering bullshit is what I enjoy the most. There's PLENTY of bullshit coming from the cops here; you only have to look at how similar it all is to see it's PR Spin and they're just 5regurgitating O'Connors crapola.
Of course the fact that I'm happy to play devils advocate doesn't mean any of my arguments are unsound but I wouldn't expect mom to let facts cloud his opinions with reason.
HOWEVER: On this thread, I stand by every post I've made as I do on the political one. The devils advocate posts are on less serious threads.
Forum whore
A bit like Vampires running from the light, denying there is a sun.........
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Patrick and Scumdog aped O'Connors bullshit spin is that cops have only been bad guys 4 times or some such crap. Of course that's because cops investigate cops and cover up for each other. On the other hand, the actual number of complaints covered up is far far larger and even though O'Connor tries to whitewash it, the investigation finds hundreds of complaints that should have been investigated by an impartial agency.
So too bad for them, the report by Dame Margaret Beazley slammed them for their groupthink and their coverup of so much complaint:
From scoop.co.nz:
DISGRACEFUL: Commissioner Dame Margaret Bazley's long awaited Commission of Inquiry into police conduct has been released and uncovered hundreds of sex complaints against officers. The inquiry discovered 313 complaints of sexual assault against 222 police officers between 1979 and 2005.
Here's a link to the report:
http://www.cipc.govt.nz/
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
This is Greg O'Connors Spin bullshit on the Commission of Inquiry (you can see the number 4 that O'Connors mouthpiece here likes to quote and just what a pile of garbage that actually is):
When Dame Margaret Bazley released her report on police conduct just five months ago she expressed real doubts about whether the force could sustain the necessary impetus to change its culture. Judging by the defensive speech from Police Association president Greg O'Connor this week she was right to be concerned.
"Lay off the police" was the nub of his message when he opened the association's annual conference, arguing that they were being criticised too much and too unfairly and that this was harming their effectiveness.
"In the past, criticisms that we knew had no real substance would have been shrugged off. Now no one wants to do that 'just in case'," he said. "We're too quick to put police on trial time after time, 'just to be on the safe side,' and all the while oblivious of the damage we're doing."
To blame were the usual suspects - media, politicians and an ill-informed public.
he went on to make a few absurd statements of his own that suggest he is in a state of denial over some of the real problems identified by police critics. For instance, he characterised Dame Margaret's report as being "as close to a clean bill of health as you can get".
He said the commission of inquiry had looked at 25 years of police history and re-examined 400 cases but come up with only four in which proper investigation did not take place.
This came from reading the actual report and he blamed media reporting for creating a contrary impression. Yet he ignored the report's findings that there were 141 sexual assault complaints with sufficient evidence to lay criminal charges or take disciplinary action.
This is hardly the clean bill of health that Mr O'Connor claims and if the point must be emphasised you need only refer to Dame Margaret's 60 recommendations to change the police culture, including annual audits to make sure that a state of denial is not allowed to prevail.
Editorial from NZ Herald.
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Report of the Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct
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has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Nope, unlike you I'm happy to offer the actual words of O'Connor and also the actual report by Dame Margaret Beazley.
It's interesting to hear you ape the O'Connor BULLSHIT about "only 4 cases" even though the report makes it quite clear that at least 150 sexual complaints were serious enough to have been investigated but weren't. Sexual complaints against cops is just one facet of course, there's much more and the smell of bullshit from O'Connor and his sycophants is almost overpowering.
Loud and Uncouth
Is this a one man thread or something????
BTW could you locate the post of mine that you are quoting here?
"Patrick and Scumdog aped O'Connors bullshit spin is that cops have only been bad guys 4 times or some such crap."
I must have been drunk and raping at the time and can't remember posting it.
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
nothing to say about the actual content of the posts, the Inquiry into Police Conduct?Is this a one man thread or something????
BTW could you locate the post of mine that you are quoting here?
"Patrick and Scumdog aped O'Connors bullshit spin is that cops have only been bad guys 4 times or some such crap."
I must have been drunk and raping at the time and can't remember posting it.
Of course not...............................O'Connor hasn't told you what else to say yet.
It's OK...I've got a spare!
re-procrastinationism
...she took the KT, and left me the Buell to ride....(Blues Brothers)
Loud and Uncouth
No, - I asked you to show the post you extracted the words you attributed to me.
Non-sequetuers don't count sonny.
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
sorry, i'm not interested in trolling back through piles of crap just to find one dump.
care to commment on the content or are you still in denial?
Loud and Uncouth
THAT's a pretty weak excuse - so you can't quote me at all can you?
Because I never wrote the words you accused me of.
STILL in denial?
Was I ever in denial?
Or is that just your spin on things - like the quote I brought up??
Next thing you'll be stepping into O'Conors shoes if what you say about him is true. (pffft!)
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
has made a bo-bo in his nappies
Nope, I really just can't be bothered trolling through piles of crap looking for one dump.
You however can do something decisive for a change: you could make an unequivocal statement either supporting O'Connors spin as aped by Patrick or you could support the Commission of Enquiry and the fact that it exposes serious problems in police conduct that need to be resolved but probably won't be because of Cop group think.
I won't hold my breath.
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