Police shoot and kill another person

**Krusti** · 27th September 2007, 19:56

Originally Posted by doc

Get real, some I think might be geting thru the system and joining just to do this..... Society is breaking down .Look at KB'r not what it was. False moon Landings, 3/11 to get elected. The war on terror . It's only news which is a sale issue here. Now back to a bike related subject. Which 250 should I choose?

Yeah............ Breaking news....krusti cut his hair off.....helmet now too big!......

**JimO** · 27th September 2007, 20:12

if the policeman hadnt shot him perhaps the result would have been this........

**TLMAN** · 27th September 2007, 20:21

Originally Posted by jimjim

if the policeman hadnt shot him perhaps the result would have been this........

Hahaha AWESOME.

Thats the best use of a smiley ive seen yet!!

**Manxman** · 27th September 2007, 20:30

Originally Posted by jimjim

if the policeman hadnt shot him perhaps the result would have been this........

..and what would the media's reaction have been then, I wonder???

**Reckless** · 27th September 2007, 21:14

Originally Posted by Swoop

A small point that has been missed from the discussion so far...

Pepperspray.
Better for up-close and personal conditions.

The commander on close up explained about the use of pepper spray, Wind has to be right etc etc. Didn't look like it was the thing here.

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I love the double-standards on this site at times.

According to the weight of opinion around here it's OK for some chef on a bus to bury a 25cm knife to the hilt into somebody he thought was threatening him; but it's not OK for a cop in the same city to shoot some dude who wants to do him harm with a hammer?

Perhaps rednecks don't like the Police dispensing vigilante justice for them?

Hitch you are bang on this time mate! bling will be sent.

Well the young witness on Close up cleared it up for me. Told it, like he saw it (except for the hair in his eyes), the cop had no choice. then that bloody Mark Sainsbury starts asking questions Like "Did the cop have time to turn and run away" for fucks sake now do we want our Police force to turn and run at the site of trouble! Jeepers where do we get these interviewers!
My thoughts and good wishes go to the cop!! Hope he doesn't get to much hassle over this event. I wouldn't think he would have asked for his day to turn out this way when his shift started.

**peasea** · 27th September 2007, 21:25

Originally Posted by Reckless

The commander on close up explained about the use of pepper spray, Wind has to be right etc etc. Didn't look like it was the thing here.

Hitch you are bang on this time mate! bling will be sent.

Well the young witness on Close up cleared it up for me. Told it, like he saw it (except for the hair in his eyes), the cop had no choice. then that bloody Mark Sainsbury starts asking questions Like "Did the cop have time to turn and run away" for fucks sake now do we want our Police force to turn and run at the site of trouble! Jeepers where do we get these interviewers!
My thoughts and good wishes go to the cop!! Hope he doesn't get to much hassle over this event. I wouldn't think he would have asked for his day to turn out this way when his shift started.

Like I said, TV1 are a wonderful crew.
If what that youngster says is true then this will make the third time I'll leap to the defence of the Wooden Tops.

**98tls** · 27th September 2007, 21:25

Simple really.......dont take a hammer to a gunfight

Cant really see what other choice the cop had ,if the guy messed someone up with the hammer and there were armed police there the media would be screaming "why didnt they shoot him"blah blah blah,thoughts go out to the cop must have been a hell of a day for him.

**SVboy** · 27th September 2007, 21:29

Have to agree-hell of a hard thing for the cop to live with, for the rest of their life. It isnt like tv!

**Swoop** · 27th September 2007, 21:48

Originally Posted by Reckless

The commander on close up explained about the use of pepper spray, Wind has to be right etc etc. Didn't look like it was the thing here.

If the "commander" was the same silly bitch that was interviewed on 3, she is putting out so much speculation I wouldn't believe anything she said.
Various answers spouting forth, but when the difficult questions started... "I wasn't there, BUT...."

Pepperspray squirts in a stream and is quite directional.
Who knows?

Truth is the first victim.
As I said previously, "15 all" to the media.

**peasea** · 27th September 2007, 22:08

Originally Posted by Swoop

If the "commander" was the same silly bitch that was interviewed on 3, she is putting out so much speculation I wouldn't believe anything she said.
Various answers spouting forth, but when the difficult questions started... "I wasn't there, BUT...."

Pepperspray squirts in a stream and is quite directional.
Who knows?

Truth is the first victim.
As I said previously, "15 all" to the media.

Now, now; that "silly bitch" is one of our finest.

Where are all kb's 'finest' this evening? Dishing out 111kph paperwork, defending the meek?

Hiding under rocks?

Busy creating the truth?

**Mr. Peanut** · 27th September 2007, 22:15

Originally Posted by k14

Nah i'd rather it be bradford, sue that is.

As for the "victim", good riddance. The world is devoid of one more meathead. If you are too thick to stop what you are doing when a cop draws his gun then you've got no sympathy from me. Good stuff to the copper for making a good job of it, unlike the case with the gunman loose in upper hutt, he killed him and which means no taxpayer money wasted on hospital treatment.

The cop wouldn't be allowed to fire his gun, lest he exceed his carbon credit quota.

**Skyryder** · 27th September 2007, 23:27

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I love the double-standards on this site at times.

According to the weight of opinion around here it's OK for some chef on a bus to bury a 25cm knife to the hilt into somebody he thought was threatening him; but it's not OK for a cop in the same city to shoot some dude who wants to do him harm with a hammer?

Perhaps rednecks don't like the Police dispensing vigilante justice for them?

The cop who shot Guy Wallace walked the chef did not. I just wonder where we got the double standards from.

Skyryder

**Toaster** · 27th September 2007, 23:39

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I hope not............I mean if the guy had a hammer, surely the Police don't have to resort to guns to stop guys like this.

What about the riot gear with shields?

How would you know if you were not there confronted as he was?

**Toaster** · 27th September 2007, 23:46

Originally Posted by 98tls

Simple really.......dont take a hammer to a gunfight

Cant really see what other choice the cop had ,if the guy messed someone up with the hammer and there were armed police there the media would be screaming "why didnt they shoot him"blah blah blah,thoughts go out to the cop must have been a hell of a day for him.

Yep, and try "hell of a next two years" as he or she goes through a homicide invetigation, a PCA investigation and Coroners investigation all the while as all the armchair critics around NZ who think they know better not ever having been in a violent situation like this but still condemn the cops actions without the facts but just a blind opinion they think are so righteous. The cops made a decision under extreme pressure in a split second.

Lets wait for the full investigation and not get carried away with the usual bullshit "trial by media" that sells papers and increases ratings for organisations that don't give a blind toss whether or not someone is innocent or guilty as long as it brings them profits.

**Skyryder** · 27th September 2007, 23:51

Originally Posted by Toaster

Lets wait for the full investigation and not get carried away with the usual bullshit "trial by media" that sells papers and increases ratings for organisations that don't give a blind toss whether or not someone is innocent or guilty as long as it brings them profits.

Fuck no. I might dead by the time that happens. As you get older you don't have time to wait for facts.

Skyryder