Police shoot and kill another person

[Coldrider]

Yeah, I'm making an ass of u and me... but, I don't think it's unreasonable given the situation to assume that he had no other purpose in mind

Unless there's something else you can do with a hammer and a policeman (ideas on the back of a postcard to the usual address)?

You and jrandom are correct, but certain elements are not fact.

[Mr Merde]

My concerns arent with the shooting but more with the attitude of the senior police officers and the government.

We have the Armed Forces and the Police.

The former includes the Army, the Navy and the Airforce.

It does not include the Police force.

Yet more and more the policew are being armed.

The Armed Forces have a combined muster of about 8500 persons and their job is to defend this country's citizens

The police force musters in at about 9500 persons and their job id to keep this country's citizens in control.

If a citizen dares to defend themselves by violent means then the police force pushes for prosecution of that person as hard as they can (using our money to do so).

If a police officer uses force then they defend that person to their utmost capabilities (again using our money).

All this is backed by a government that has lost the trust of its citizens.

It all sounds so hypocritical.

[imdying]

Yet more and more the policew are being armed.

I did wonder what one of our unarmed police force was doing their with a gun... what's the deal with carrying firearms these days?

[Coldrider]

Mm hmm, and if she has a lethal weapon, I'll fully support any cop who shoots her.

Yes, correct also, but won't the shit hit the fan this happened, what would the public demand then, this is a deviation from the story I know, but also why answers need to be found on this case.
No one wants to take a step back to the original approach to see if it could be dealt with differently, (maybe the Napier cops). The economical approach is would we want to see a coppa beaten with a hammer. ....repeat......repeat......
That is why we have numerous official inquiries started.

[Coldrider]

I did wonder what one of our unarmed police force was doing their with a gun... what's the deal with carrying firearms these days?

A few policeman have shot themselves with drawing a glock, they are at danger to themselves, anyway hammers are so last year, any self respecting nutcase should have a gas powered nail gun by now.

[Mr Merde]

A few policeman have shot themselves with drawing a glock, they are at danger to themselves, anyway hammers are so last year, any self respecting nutcase should have a gas powered nail gun by now.

With a solar powered compressor on their back.

Oh shit I see another ban comming on.

What would it be classed as

Military Style Construction Tool , MSCT,

just imagine Mitre 10 asking to see your buiders federation Id before selling you such a device.

[jrandom]

A few policeman have shot themselves with drawing a glock, they are at danger to themselves

Amazing how badly trained and/or thick operators can injure themselves with all sorts of tools, isn't it?

anyway hammers are so last year

Tell that to the 1911 fans...

[idleidolidyll]

no, the argument is that the cops are more than willing to kill people rather than seek other methods

[Finn]

no, the argument is that the cops are more than willing to kill people rather than seek other methods

Stop being so one-eyed.

[idleidolidyll]

and if the cop hadn't challenged him with death he might have wrecked a few more cars and been alive to pay for it today.

instead the fuckin cop slaughtered him for the offence of property damage.

[idleidolidyll]

Monte Carlo. Okay, not really a country but it's a great place to live. Crime is basically unheard of.

Hey, weren't you in the military? You got paid to kill people.

no, i was never in the army.

BTW: the question asked was by someone else not me (imdying). I just cut and pasted their silly fallacious argument into my post and answered it. Missed out the quotation mark at the end.

[Coldrider]

no, the argument is that the cops are more than willing to kill people rather than seek other methods

economical

[idleidolidyll]

Mm hmm, and if she has a lethal weapon, I'll fully support any cop who shoots her.

define 'lethal weapon'.

any pair of hands could be a lethal weapon and all the cop has to do is say "they were coming at me" and the Police Complaints Authority will whitewash it for the force.

it STILL boils down to human beings being punished with the death penalty for property offences and minor traffic violations.

[Finn]

Do you think pepper spray would be effective against this?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10467245

[Mr Merde]

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it STILL boils down to human beings being punished ...for property offences ....

The courts have always been harder on property offences.

The Great Train Robbers got 30 years and be out in 20 years

whilst a murderer can be out in 15 years served of a life sentence