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    No patrick, I've been countering your bullshit police propaganda.

    your extreme viewpoint generates the opposite from me so that those watching are not exposed to just one side of the story.

    I fervently believe the police value police reputation above the lives of Kiwis and that the closing of ranks we see in these cases damages both the police and NZ society.

    your attempts to use fallacious debate to paint me as a criminal or peacenik or whatever childish nonsense you offer at any one time only makes me more determined to expose you for what you are: a police sycophant sucking down and offering up the closed rank cop line without a thought for humanity or society.

    and of course there you go again doing the same by suggesting i believe the cop was a sadistic power tripper.
    save your fallacious bullshit for simple minded fools, i'm not that easily defused.

    my viewpoint is indeed an alternate viewpoint and that it is diametrically opposite to yours is exactly the point. You are arguing from a position of bias; you're a cop and you are toing the party line and expect us too to suck it down without question.

    tough shit, i'm here to point out that cop spin is often thinly disguised croneyism

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    BTW: that reply is to ALL the coppers here offering the same propaganda

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    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll View Post
    No patrick, I've been countering your bullshit police propaganda.
    Hang on, it's me here. jrandom. My name's Dan. Patrick's a cop; I'm not. Heh. I am so not...

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll View Post
    your extreme viewpoint...
    I don't have an extreme viewpoint; I've just observed that, generally, 99% of normal people are reluctant to hurt others, and that your view of police motivations seems unjustifiably paranoid.

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll View Post
    I fervently believe the police value police reputation above the lives of Kiwis...
    I'll just let that statement sit there. Read it again. Does it sound balanced to you? Reasonable? Normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll View Post
    your attempts to use fallacious debate to paint me as a criminal or peacenik or whatever childish nonsense you offer at any one time only makes me more determined to expose you for what you are: a police sycophant sucking down and offering up the closed rank cop line without a thought for humanity or society.

    and of course there you go again doing the same by suggesting i believe the cop was a sadistic power tripper.
    Are you confusing me with Patrick again, here?

    If the cop shot the guy in any circumstance other than a dire situation requiring self defence, then yes, he could be accused of being a sadistic power-tripper. Taking a life is no light matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by idleidolidyll View Post
    tough shit, i'm here to point out that cop spin is often thinly disguised croneyism
    I should point out that, as is the case with many on this forum, close 24/7 attention from our friends in blue uniforms would probably be quite detrimental to my lifestyle. I'm no sycophant. I do, though, think that cops are generally just average guys trying to do a good job in a bad situation.

    Your position appears to be driven by fear, loathing and paranoia rather than by anything approaching a balanced assessment of likely actions and motivations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    "There is none so blind as they that won't see". Jonathan Swift, Polite Conversation. Dialogue III.

    "There is none" is grammatically correct. "None" in that context is singular, so therefore the "is" as the singular form of the verb to be is correct.
    ...and to clear it up for the Yorkshiremen; "there be fuck all round these 'ere parts that 'aven't been seein' nuffin coz they won't"

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    just as well the coppas weren't around last week I was out with some jokers and one had a pill I said that better be panadol and he said nah its E

    bahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    just as well the coppas weren't around last week I was out with some jokers and one had a pill I said that better be panadol and he said nah its E

    bahahaha
    Any good? How much? Can he get any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    ...and to clear it up for the Yorkshiremen; "there be fuck all round these 'ere parts that 'aven't been seein' nuffin coz they won't"
    I have been contemplating Hitcher's earlier post attributing the "none so blind" quotation to Swift. I'm not sure if Swift's was the original, but will accept that as a given since I have no evidence to the contrary.

    I'm ambivalent about this as I find it frustrating when I see celebrities "improving" the work of literary giants, so to be potentially doing the same thing myself gives rise to a slight sense of guilt.

    In my defence I'd like to say that my, "There's none so blind as they that will not see", (which appears to be in common use) does at least possess the advantage of iambic pentameter. Neither of the versions as propounded by Peasea or Hitcher/Swift possess such linguistic elegance.

    Which is a long way of saying that I was pleased when I thought that this bloody thread had died yesterday. Sadly it seems it was only sleeping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch008 View Post
    I have been contemplating Hitcher's earlier post attributing the "none so blind" quotation to Swift. I'm not sure if Swift's was the original, but will accept that as a given since I have no evidence to the contrary.

    I'm ambivalent about this as I find it frustrating when I see celebrities "improving" the work of literary giants, so to be potentially doing the same thing myself gives rise to a slight sense of guilt.

    In my defence I'd like to say that my, "There's none so blind as they that will not see", (which appears to be in common use) does at least possess the advantage of iambic pentameter. Neither of the versions as propounded by Peasea or Hitcher/Swift possess such linguistic elegance.

    Which is a long way of saying that I was pleased when I thought that this bloody thread had died yesterday. Sadly it seems it was only sleeping.
    Like you need linguistic elegance on kb, wtf?
    Did you catch the shoot-em-ups on brekkie tv? Where's the thread on that lot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    ......
    Did you catch the shoot-em-ups on brekkie tv? Where's the thread on that lot?
    Missed brekkie tv, tell me more about these shoot-em-ups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Merde View Post
    Missed brekkie tv, tell me more about these shoot-em-ups.
    It was in Porirua, about ten shots (I might be wrong on the exact figure) fired in quick sccession. Sounded like the OK Corral.


    From stuff.co.nz;

    "As armed police arrested a man after a stand-off in Upper Hutt last night, another group of armed police were called to Porirua, where a man threatened them with a dog about 10pm.


    After an hour-long stand off at an address in Warspite Ave, Waitangirua, the man set the enraged Rottweiller on the police.

    Police fired a number of shots at the dog before setting police dogs on to the offender and arresting him."

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    It was in Porirua, about ten shots (I might be wrong on the exact figure) fired in quick sccession. Sounded like the OK Corral.


    From stuff.co.nz;

    "As armed police arrested a man after a stand-off in Upper Hutt last night, another group of armed police were called to Porirua, where a man threatened them with a dog about 10pm.


    After an hour-long stand off at an address in Warspite Ave, Waitangirua, the man set the enraged Rottweiller on the police.

    Police fired a number of shots at the dog before setting police dogs on to the offender and arresting him."
    Wish I had been there!

    Shee-it, didja see that rottie scoot when the lead was flying in his direction, hooo-boy, run doggie, run!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Wish I had been there!

    Shee-it, didja see that rottie scoot when the lead was flying in his direction, hooo-boy, run doggie, run!
    I didn't see that, I was doing two things at once and heard the gunfire on the box, didn't actually see much. Will have another nosey at 6pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Wish I had been there!

    Shee-it, didja see that rottie scoot when the lead was flying in his direction, hooo-boy, run doggie, run!
    Twelve shots and all missed. Fuck I wouldna giv 'im a water pistol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Shee-it, didja see that rottie scoot when the lead was flying in his direction, hooo-boy, run doggie, run!
    Smart doggie. Knows when to back down when confronted by a firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Smart doggie. Knows when to back down when confronted by a firearm.
    The one time he is probably happy not to have opposable thumbs...
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