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    My brother has a clip in one, as most other people said... they are good for road riding as they are easier and quicker to put on and off.

    For me, I LOVE my Arai, it has DD's and I feel a lot safer in it. (I just have to remember to do them up)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    More than a mouthful is wasted...
    D rings for me too. I don't like how the clip type won't stay adjusted (the strap length) and they are a bitch to reset.
    I think this is the major failure of the seatbelt type.
    If you have an accident you want your strap snug. If you don't know why you should familiarise yourself with the physics behind a slide hammer.

    On a time to time basis the clips are more convenient but they are a lot more hassle over a 2-3 year period. Given this is the projected service life of a helmet surely this is the light in which one should look at convenience.

    I have read some literature about how a clip is safer because it will shear off at a lower torsional force than a broken neck. Personally I would rather a possible broken neck than a definitely dead body. Just my own opinion and each of us is entitled to make our own choices about safety.

    Personally I prefer D rings because the very act of securing it means it will be snug unless you are one of these idiots you see riding around with a good 4 inch slack because they think its cool, however I buy whatever helmet is the best fit whenever new helmet time arrives. Clips are not a deal breaker, just as colour is not, but if I have a choice DD's all the way.

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    Oh and many has been the time that traveling down the motorway the clips have started banging agaings the side of my helmet to let me know it is no longer secured, never happened with the DD's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Oh and many has been the time that traveling down the motorway the clips have started banging agaings the side of my helmet to let me know it is no longer secured, never happened with the DD's.
    ive never had mine come undone, but having a good 10cm of excess strap is a pain in the ass when the knot comes out and starts drumming away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
    ive never had mine come undone, but having a good 10cm of excess strap is a pain in the ass when the knot comes out and starts drumming away.
    Got to love the HJC I have then, there is a retainer clip for the excess.

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    DD's are easier to adjust up so that it fits snugly(which makes it safer).Clips are more convient but can't always be trusted to have positively locked.I always slip my finger underneath and give it a good tug to make sure it has positively locked(as sometimes it has not).No good to you if your helmet comes off in a prang.

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    My old HJC had the clip fastener. It stayed on my head when I landed on it and wrote it off.

    My current HJC CL has the DD rings, which I prefer as they are easier to snug up.

    As long as you check your helmet's secure there shouldn't be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Got to love the HJC I have then, there is a retainer clip for the excess.
    Same on my KBC FFR, loops up onto a little button clip.

    As an aside, last weekend at the 6-hour I saw a rider who just jammed his helmet on and rode.
    The strap was inside the helmet and the end was sticking out by his left eye.
    I've also got photos of people racing and you can see the strap isn't done up at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    Got to love the HJC I have then, there is a retainer clip for the excess.
    ive got an hjc, and it dont have that. crappy lid, lol. got it free when i bought the gn, due to my last lid being in an accident. was the only open facer the shop had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
    and any major impact could crack the plastci clip, meaning it could come off.
    If it hit you hard enough to break the clip, I think you'd be fooked, anyway.
    I've got one of each - I prefer the DD - had the clip come undone due to it not being properly clicked home to many times.
    The clip is slightly more convenient, though, and I've never had a problem with the strap loosening.
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    I'm on my second helmet with clips now. My first was a Lazer LZX which I wore for years until my last spare visor expired due to old age. I replaced the Lazer about 18 months ago with a Shark specifically because I wanted another clip-type. Why? 1) Reliable - never had the clip come undone in flight, as it were, never, in years of use. 2) Much, much less fiddly to do up and undo. and 3) Once its set to the right length it stays there. I have never had to re-adjust once set. I guess I do trust the helmet manufacturers to produce a product that has been adequately tested and which meets the safety standards, but then don't we all?

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    I have an HJC with a clip and I have to readjust the strap often. I wonder why some people have to keep adjusting the strap after "slippage" and others never have to adjust it. Is it as a result of clip/strap design or perhaps the habits of the wearer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    Mine has a clip. It never gives me any grief.
    It strikes me that the clip is very similar to a seatbelt clip. If D rings are much safer than clips then why are seatbelts fitted with clips?
    I think your argument is very valid. I have been riding for many years and find the modern clips are much easier to use than trying to fiddle with 'D' rings. In addition one would expect that post accident investigation would very soon identify any design feature that failed to provide the required level of safety. As with the 'lead in paint' issues that have surfaced recently with imported Chinese products you would expect similar action against unsafe helmets if found to be warranted. One of my previous 'clip ons' bounced down the freeway in Brisabne a few years ago. The helmet cracked, but the head within and the clip survived!

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    I heard it's something to do with being approved for racing? and that the clips aren't? I just bought a Shoei and even the second time I put it on it felt natural and easy. It does have a little thing to pul to help you get the right D and make it easy to feed the thing through and the end of the tag clips to the D's to stop it giving you little bitch flicks all down your neck and bonch.... um.... if thats what your into....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    More than a mouthful is wasted...
    D rings for me too. I don't like how the clip type won't stay adjusted (the strap length) and they are a bitch to reset.
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