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    what is better for stunting 600cc or 400cc

    a group of mates and i wer looking into getting a bike purely for teaching ourselves how to do stunt type things.. wheelys endos riding over the handlebars etc etc we're tossing up between a 400 and 600.
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    best rated (value for money) bike for stunting would be an 01'ish Honda CBR600F4i... the fuel injection stops the bike from spluttering and dying on stoppies/wheelies etc...

    Have a look at www.stuntlife.com for some good info...
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    Wet sump + long wheelies = ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Wet sump + long wheelies = ???
    On www.stuntlife.com they talk about fairly straightforward modifications that change the oil pickup to the back of the sump, so oil is always there, or you could just overfill it by a quart...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroIndex View Post
    On www.stuntlife.com they talk about fairly straightforward modifications that change the oil pickup to the back of the sump, so oil is always there, or you could just overfill it by a quart...
    Ho ho...everyone in my garage at last VMCC round could tell you a story about that....

    Just be easier getting a bike with a dry sump no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Ho ho...everyone in my garage at last VMCC round could tell you a story about that....

    Just be easier getting a bike with a dry sump no?
    No.

    Not that many inline fours have dry sumps.

    600 is the way to go by the way, but I tend to just use what I've got.

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    Get a 250-500cc trail bike. Wheelies on demand!! Massive front suspension travel. Power slides

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat View Post
    Get a 250-500cc trail bike. Wheelies on demand!! Massive front suspension travel. Power slides
    I still want to just get hold of a little 250cc 2stroke trials bike... those things are virtually indestructible and would be great for all kinds of stunts...
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    get a CBR600F4i or a CBR600RR and be done with it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroIndex View Post
    I still want to just get hold of a little 250cc 2stroke trials bike... those things are virtually indestructible and would be great for all kinds of stunts...
    Little harder learning balance point, slow wheelie balance etc on something with a torque peak rather than flat torque curve would it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Little harder learning balance point, slow wheelie balance etc on something with a torque peak rather than flat torque curve would it not?
    I think there I'd have to disagree... I had my FZR all stunted up (54 tooth rear sprocket), but as soon as power delivery came (after the front would come up), I'd get nervous and set it down... the only time I didn't set it down, it set itself down on its side and then slid down the road with me still sitting on it... that was the last time the bike worked...
    Although, yes... most stunters seem to prefer rev-hungry inline4's as stunt-toys, but the likes of Christian Pfieffer (Ducati Monster, a bunch of trials bikes, and the BMW F800 parallel twin) and Julian Dupont (freestyle trials rider) seem to show that flat torque, as well as Carver (DR650 and currently ER6n) seem to enjoy a flat torque curve...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroIndex View Post
    I think there I'd have to disagree... I had my FZR all stunted up (54 tooth rear sprocket), but as soon as power delivery came (after the front would come up), I'd get nervous and set it down... the only time I didn't set it down, it set itself down on its side and then slid down the road with me still sitting on it... that was the last time the bike worked...
    Although, yes... most stunters seem to prefer rev-hungry inline4's as stunt-toys, but the likes of Christian Pfieffer (Ducati Monster, a bunch of trials bikes, and the BMW F800 parallel twin) and Julian Dupont (freestyle trials rider) seem to show that flat torque, as well as Carver (DR650 and currently ER6n) seem to enjoy a flat torque curve...
    Was referring to the two stroke peaky power delivery vs a 4 strokes more linear.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Was referring to the two stroke peaky power delivery vs a 4 strokes more linear.....
    2 stroke trials bikes fortunately lack the peaky power delivery thanks to a nice um... no power band and no expansion chamber... I got to ride a montesa 250 2t a couple months back... it was awesome... it would just go (never got about i estimate 4000rpm maybe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroIndex View Post
    2 stroke trials bikes fortunately lack the peaky power delivery thanks to a nice um... no power band and no expansion chamber... I got to ride a montesa 250 2t a couple months back... it was awesome... it would just go (never got about i estimate 4000rpm maybe...

    This is a very good point that people can get there head around, not all 2 stokes are rev hungry machines.
    Tuning to suit the task at hand.

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    we were thinking along the lines of a sport bike. dont really want a trial or mx type bike its too easy to do wheelys on them. possibly a v twin because of the low rev grunt beter for doing slow wheelys and not having to rev the shit out of it?? maby a vfr400 or sv650? dad just got a sv i took it for a blat and they seem quite tourqey lol.
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