Moon landing - Fact or fake?

**Disco Dan** · 26th September 2007, 00:08

There has been many reports of the moon landing being a fake. However I wanted to post a poll and get a broader idea of how many people think it is a fake.

Look at the video below and tell me that when the guy is 'lifted' off the ground its not fake!

Never was a believer.

**Steam** · 26th September 2007, 00:21

Oh Dan, I'm disappointed in you. Both for being a consipracy theorist dupe, and for not searching before posting.

Did man fly to the moon?? by Skyryder
Moon landing not a hoax by Deviant Esq

Personally, I find this video below to be the most disturbing evidence of Nasa's coverups.

For links to sites debunking the conspiracy, go to these:
http://www.clavius.org/
http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/apollohoax.html

If you still believe in it after reading those sites... well... maybe it's time to put on your pyramid-shaped tin-foil hat and head for the hills with your free energy generator and water powered motorcycle.

**Usarka** · 26th September 2007, 08:29

Wow they sound like very reputable scientists.

I lile this quote "..asked if I really believe it happened. I said sure, I saw it on television. He disagreed; he said that he din't believe it for a minute, that 'them television fellas' could make things look real that weren't. I thought he was a crank. During my eight years in Washington I saw some things on TV's that made me wonder if he wasn't ahead of his time." ~ Bill Clinton.

**idb** · 26th September 2007, 08:34

In frame 1,373 of the first moon landing, in the bottom centre of the screen there is an empty Speight's stubbie lying on the ground...draw your own conclusion.

**scumdog** · 26th September 2007, 08:38

It was all filmed out at the back of the old open-cast coal-mine at the back of *Kaitangata - I'll show you if you're ever down here.

(*Hence the Speights bottle as mentioned by idb)

**Oakie** · 26th September 2007, 08:55

If not, then way too many people would have been involved for someone not to have come forward with a tell-all book or something.

**ManDownUnder** · 26th September 2007, 08:59

Moon landing - fact or fiction

Holocaust - fact or fiction.

Bored people looking for anything they can do to stir things up and start a rumour - fact or fiction.

FFS, I have better things to worry about.

**Colapop** · 26th September 2007, 09:02

And yet you still felt the need to post something in this thread...

hehehe

**ManDownUnder** · 26th September 2007, 09:04

Hey Dan - Feb next year I have a couple of friends coming down to NZ... one female (single...!) who works for, none other than NASA (by that way that's all caps).

Take it up with her. She'll be sure to have an entertaining "chat" about it with you.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 26th September 2007, 09:06

Originally Posted by idb

In frame 1,373 of the first moon landing, in the bottom centre of the screen there is an empty Speight's stubbie lying on the ground...draw your own conclusion.

oh frak I was hoping nobody noticed that... I should have edited that frame...

**idb** · 26th September 2007, 09:11

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Moon landing - fact or fiction

Holocaust - fact or fiction.

Bored people looking for anything they can do to stir things up and start a rumour - fact or fiction.

FFS, I have better things to worry about.

Hmmmm...interesting that you are trying to brush the whole debate under the carpet...what do you know I wonder???

**007XX** · 26th September 2007, 09:13

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Hey Dan - Feb next year I have a couple of friends coming down to NZ... one female (single...!) who works for, none other than NASA (by that way that's all caps).

Take it up with her. She'll be sure to have an entertaining "chat" about it with you.

And you will seriously expect him to hear any of what she will actually say?

Me thinks he'll be more enclined to see her moons...

**johan** · 26th September 2007, 09:25

Don't forget it was ET who brought us the microwave.

**Steam** · 26th September 2007, 10:00

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

oh frak ...

Har har, Battlestar Geek!

**SimJen** · 26th September 2007, 10:18

these useless conspiracy theorists. You can pick anything apart and produce a doco claiming it was fiction. With enough camera abberations, and struck off so called "experts" anything can be deemed to have not happened.
Fox was well critisised for its crapumentary on the moon landing. All of the "experts" concerned were later ripped apart by journalists who proved that they had agenda's!
Why should we have to prove something happened when its beyond the simple understanding of non-intellectuals, when it is them that need to catergorically prove that they are right!
Everything they came up with has an explanation.
Such as "why are no stars ever seen in photographs of the men on the moons surface"
basic photography 101! the camera meters the scene for correct exposure and the less bright stars will get lost as it meters for the bright foreground!
People need to stop questioning everything.
There was a total of six moon landings from 1969 - 1972.
From wikipedia:
Many conspiracy theorists insist that the Apollo moon landings were a hoax. These accusations flourish in part because predictions by enthusiasts that Moon landings would become commonplace have not yet come to pass. Some claims can be empirically discredited by three retroreflector arrays left on the Moon by Apollo 11, 14 and 15. Today, anyone on Earth with an appropriate laser and telescope system may bounce laser beams off of these devices, verifying deployment of the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment at historically documented Apollo moon landing sites.

see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...ax_accusations