Robert Taylor and idleidolidyll's political debating thread

[Ocean1]

No "Entitlement"......disabled people don't want charity.........................

Yes, I'm aware of your circumstances dude.

Disabled people's entitlements are a function of law, it's a legslative term, and I agree, it's not charity.

Charity is the correct noun, however, to apply to the act of one person giving assistance to another in need. Don't read too much into it eh? True charity does exist, and it's a delightful thing to see, arguably the one thing that defines us best.

[davereid]

Charity is the correct noun, however, to apply to the act of one person giving assistance to another in need. Don't read too much into it eh? True charity does exist, and it's a delightful thing to see, arguably the one thing that defines us best.

Of course if you have purchased insurance, then its an entitlement to be paid, not charity.

Even though we have a stack of government assistance, it never ceases to amaze me, how many NZers are involved in charity or volunteer work.

[Grahameeboy]

Yes, I'm aware of your circumstances dude.

Disabled people's entitlements are a function of law, it's a legslative term, and I agree, it's not charity.

Charity is the correct noun, however, to apply to the act of one person giving assistance to another in need. Don't read too much into it eh? True charity does exist, and it's a delightful thing to see, arguably the one thing that defines us best.

I know, was not reading too much into it............just could not resist.

But on a serious note, I have been to many a Disability forum and the way that Disability funding is run, you would think the Govt does consider it a 'Charity' at times.

Ministry of Education seems to have unlimited funds and provides a lot more for Nats when she goes to school than the Ministry of Health do......unless she was Maori when she would get special treatment.....sorry not anti-Maori, just pointing out a fact.

But life was never meant to be easy and despite alleged intrusions by the Govt, it is up to each and everyone of us how we decide to deal with life, not the Govts.

[Grahameeboy]

Of course if you have purchased insurance, then its an entitlement to be paid, not charity.

Even though we have a stack of government assistance, it never ceases to amaze me, how many NZers are involved in charity or volunteer work.

Isn't income tax an insurance??

[Ocean1]

plenty is Just enough.

Fixed.....

[Finn]

Yes, I'm aware of your circumcision dude.

I don't think it's a disability but it does desensitise the enjoyment a bit.

[Finn]

Isn't income tax an insurance??

Like fuck it is. It's wealth distribution.

[davereid]

ACC is, no doubt about that.

General income tax ? Thats harder to work out.

We all know that we are offered (some level) of health and disability care by the government, even if its not very good.

So we tend to behave as if we are insured. Few of us buy health insurance as we think we are already covered. And fewer still buy disability cover.

The reality is, that in a high tax environment, most of us simply have to accept the cover offered by government as our insurance - as we don't have enough cash left to buy it elswhere !

[Hitcher]

I don't think it's a disability but it does desensitise the enjoyment a bit.

Show me the population-based studies that confirm this.

[Grahameeboy]

Like fuck it is. It's wealth distribution.

But surely being a millionthaire you get more benefits??

[Grahameeboy]

I don't think it's a disability but it does desensitise the enjoyment a bit.

Not necessarily for the receiver.........

[Finn]

Show me the population-based studies that confirm this.

Put it this way... Leave your bike outside in the elements and eventually the paint starts to dull and crack. Then corrosion sets in and you may find it stops working according to the manufacturers specifications.

[Finn]

But surely being a millionthaire you get more benefits??

No more than a professional breeder on welfare.

[Grahameeboy]

Put it this way... Leave your bike outside in the elements and eventually the paint starts to dull and crack. Then corrosion sets in and you may find it stops working according to the manufacturers specifications.

Sounds like you talk from personal experience.......I mean you left your Honda in storage and it cut out.........

[Finn]

Sounds like you talk from personal experience.......I mean you left your Honda in storage and it cut out.........

Well Honda's are gay. I meant a heterosexual bike.