Robert Taylor and idleidolidyll's political debating thread

[idleidolidyll]

Sure, when the Vishna worshippers outnumber the Christians I'd have no problem with that.

But it ain't goin' to happen sunshine.

If we had NO anthem I wouldn't give a fat rats arse - after all, what the hell is there to worry about in an anthem in the greater scheme of things?? - there's a shitload more important stuff to worry about in life than who beleives in what and an anthem.

icons and semiology are vitally important in all societies

everyone is altered by them whether they want to admit it or not

[idleidolidyll]

Totally agree Sir....

of course you do, your first though is for your beliefs and other human beings come next

that was my point in this secular nation asking in its anthem for god to save us from the devil knows what

[idleidolidyll]

True but unlikely so not for debate.

I used to sing the British anthem before I was a Christian and it just gave me a feeling of my roots............

You need to chill........

good for you

singing our national anthem gives me a feeling of hypocrisy

[Grahameeboy]

of course you do, your first though is for your beliefs and other human beings come next

Mmm...No. My beliefs involve others.

that was my point in this secular nation asking in its anthem for god to save us from the devil knows what

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[Grahameeboy]

good for you

singing our national anthem gives me a feeling of hypocrisy

Well I respect your integrity.

[idleidolidyll]

it muddies the water a lot

although the practice of organised religion IS politics, it's a stand alone subject and distracting

[idleidolidyll]

Well I respect your integrity.

and i your right to practice your belief without negatively affecting others

[Grahameeboy]

and i your right to practice your belief without negatively affecting others

Hopefully I practice that too.................

[Grahameeboy]

it muddies the water a lot

although the practice of organised religion IS politics, it's a stand alone subject and distracting

Sorry my fault..........I was just trying to debate your 'Control' points and relating it to how I view life etc.

[idleidolidyll]

Sorry my fault..........I was just trying to debate your 'Control' points and relating it to how I view life etc.

don't sweat it, i'm not offended

[Grahameeboy]

don't sweat it, i'm not offended

I know, just a courtesy post.

[scumdog]

icons and semiology are vitally important in all societies

everyone is altered by them whether they want to admit it or not

But does it affect my day-today living?
Does it concern me?
Does it influence my view on life?
Does it make me think more/less of others? (barring suicide bombers I guess!)

Pretty much 'no' to all the above, ergo it is waayyy down the order of lifes concerns, relegated to the time I am only navel-gazing due to a want of subjects to think about.

[idleidolidyll]

But does it affect my day-today living?

Yes

Does it concern me?

apparently not but it should

Does it influence my view on life?

Yes

Does it make me think more/less of others? (barring suicide bombers I guess!)

buggered if i know

Pretty much 'no' to all the above, ergo it is waayyy down the order of lifes concerns, relegated to the time I am only navel-gazing due to a want of subjects to think about.

there's them opinions brown-eyeing us again

[scumdog]

there's them opinions brown-eyeing us again

Both of us i would say.

Not sure how religion affects my day-to-day living or influence me but if you say so it must be fact eh?

[Grahameeboy]

Funny cause Ideaology post's actually display some elements of 'Thall Shalt do this'

Anyway, my concern is that this Thread has exceeded my KB Arse Thread which is quite appropriate as I see it 'Kant Be Arsed'................as he slips away