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    If you class participating in sport and also preparing machines/equipment for use in sport as work then taking any performance enhancing or mind altering drugs is unethical and not allowed.
    If you class those 2 as recreation then it's down to personal responsibility (lots of eyes seem to glaze over when you mention those 2 words together). Personally, I got over recreational drugs a very long time ago so don't take any and only drink alcohol in moderation when I know I'm going to be doing either of the above activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlashWylde View Post
    Tell that to the guys who get boozed the night before a track day.
    Exactly, so why not random test them - piss or drugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Is it therefore a dangerous cocktail to have people with a fatal weakness for drug use entrusted to preparing a racing motorcycle? I know that I would absolutely forbid it myself.
    OK so Marion came out of the closet and I know Robert says he won't name names, but does anyone know who is doing this? if so have you had a quiet word in their ear or do they not give a f...? Probably shame them out of sponsors money is the best way or are they the sponsor? How does the rider of said prepared bike feel? Happy to risk his/her life on it? Or again does rider give a f...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post

    In my day, a drug abuser was the prick that hogged the joint...
    Classic. That 'cracked' me up. Pun intended.

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    Let 'em take performance enhancing drugs. We could have the "drugged up Olympics" and the "sober Olympics". Let the athletes be sponsored by the drug makers. All those Chinese 'women' swimmers could have the brand names emblazoned on their backs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Drug abusers (whether performance enhancing or recreational) are losers.
    Rhetoric. Unfortunately they are not. If these drugs did not work, people would not use them. Marion Jones and other conspicuous cheats have made a lot of money. Despite the tears, she still gets to keep her winnings, titles and records. Perhaps the ABs should have been on drugs...
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    Yes. Well, you may win the medal, but you lose your integrity in my book. Personally, I think the medals, winnings and results should be voided. However, the fact that people still think they can get away with it is just another symptom of our non-empathetic, egocentric, winner-takes-all society.

    If the All Blacks took drugs to win they would lose my support. I'd rather they lost every game.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post

    If the All Blacks took drugs to win they would lose my support. I'd rather they lost every game.
    But only when it counts, eh? What's that....oh, they do anyway.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Nah, seriously mate. Cheating with drugs SO cheapens the whole concept of pushing the body to its absolute limits.

    I'm mature enough not to have to base my whole self-esteem on an All Black result, no matter how much I enjoy watching.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    Exactly, so why not random test them - piss or drugs?
    When I was pit crew for Truck racing we used to have random breath testing in the mornings before the racing started
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    If the All Blacks took drugs to win they would lose my support.
    Do you really think that 'testosterone propionate' is an unfamiliar phrase at the AB's training camps?
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    Come on mate, they get tested so often they'd be mad to take anabolic steroids.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Come on mate, they get tested so often they'd be mad to take anabolic steroids.
    Can you link to any information regarding the drug testing programme that they are subject to?
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    Not to hand at present.

    Can you link to any evidence proving steroid abuse amongst NZ Rugby players?

    AFAIK, the only NZ player to fail a drug test was Anton Oliver at the last World Cup (took flu tablet).
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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