Full license drivers/riders displaying "L" plates?

**RiderInBlack** · 7th October 2007, 16:08

What is the rule on Full License Drivers/Riders Displaying "L" Plates?

I have the joy

of helping Blue Babe's 15yrs old Daughter "Z" to drive. She has just got her learner license and need some practice, but has to have a Fully Licensed Driver with her. Of cause she has too display the "L" plates when she is driving, but if I hoop in the driver's seat is there a law against me still having the "L" plates on? "Z" seams ta think so, but I can't find anything stating that in the NZ Road Code. Seams a bit of a pain to have to take them off her car just so I can drive her car to somewhere safe for her to learn, then put them on for her driving, and then to take them off again to drive back through the trickier parts of town.

What's The Rule?????:spudwhat:

**yungatart** · 7th October 2007, 16:17

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

What is the rule on Full License Drivers/Riders Displaying "L" Plates?

I have the joy

of helping Blue Babe's 15yrs old Daughter "Z" to drive. She has just got her learner license and need some practice, but has to have a Fully Licensed Driver with her. Of cause she has too display the "L" plates when she is driving, but if I hoop in the driver's seat is there a law against me still having the "L" plates on? "Z" seams ta think so, but I can't find anything stating that in the NZ Road Code. Seams a bit of a pain to have to take them off her car just so I can drive her car to somewhere safe for her to learn, then put them on for her driving, and then to take them off again to drive back through the trickier parts of town.

What's The Rule?????:spudwhat:

I believe that it is against the law to drive/ride with Lplates displayed if you are not an L plate driver/rider.
However, hXc is an L plate car driver, I hardly ever remove them if I am driving that car, and Mstrs rode SC's bike over here the other day, it displays an L plate and he has had his bike licence for 30 odd years.
It would have to be a cop having a real bad day for you to get a ticket for it.

**Curious_AJ** · 7th October 2007, 16:18

as far as I know, you can have the L-plates on. They're only to warn people to be careful of you. it's not like you're going to be driving like a maniac or anything, and if you were, people would be warned.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 7th October 2007, 16:24

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...e+full+license

**klingon** · 7th October 2007, 16:53

Originally Posted by Ixion

LAND TRANSPORT (DRIVER LICENSING) RULE 1999
PART 16 - MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS RELATING TO RESPONSIBILITIES OF DRIVERS

104.Prohibition on display of ``L'' plate except in appropriate circumstances—

A person must not drive, on a road, a motor vehicle that displays an ``L'' plate as specified in clause 66 unless that person—

(a)Holds a learner licence of the class that relates to that vehicle in accordance with Schedule 3; or
(b)Immediately prior to driving has been, or is about to be, accompanying the person in paragraph (a) in accordance with clause 16(1)(a); or
(c)Holds a driving instructor or testing officer endorsement and is driving a vehicle used for purposes connected with that endorsement.

The key bit says that you can use the L plate if "Immediately prior to driving has been, or is about to be, accompanying the person in paragraph (a)" so if the learner is in the car with you, you'll be fine.

**Toaster** · 7th October 2007, 17:07

Agreed as Klingon has stated.

This matter was clarified recently in another thread.

However, despite this rule, it seems to me that any police officer giving out a ticket to a full licence holder just because the L-plate was left on needs their head read.

That would be utterly unreasonable in my view, unless their was some form of deception or advantage to be gained by the driver/rider by doing so.... and I certainly can't think of any.

**deanohit** · 7th October 2007, 17:43

Yea well there seem to be a few cops who are sticklers for rules and will hand out a ticket for anything.

**Skyryder** · 7th October 2007, 17:56

When I was teaching the daughter to drive I got some strick on's from the AA. The just adhere to the inside of the windsreen and rear window.

Skyryder

**Mully** · 7th October 2007, 18:02

Originally Posted by RiderInBlack

Blue Babe's 15yrs old Daughter "Z"

Zoe?
Ziggy?
Zither?
Zimmerframe?
Zebra?
Zulu?
Zenith?

**RiderInBlack** · 8th October 2007, 18:33

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...e+full+license

Thanks for that

Didn't come up on search I did

**Hitcher** · 8th October 2007, 19:14

If you are not a learner driver/rider, then it is against the law to drive/ride a vehicle with L-plates fitted.

**RiderInBlack** · 9th October 2007, 06:23

Originally Posted by Hitcher

If you are not a learner driver/rider, then it is against the law to drive/ride a vehicle with L-plates fitted.

Unless ya have a learner driver with ya and ya on ya way to or on ya way back from teaching them to drive.

**ICE180** · 9th October 2007, 07:51

what happens if you never had to be a learner driver but want to see what it is like

Some of us did our liences and went straight onto a full and missed out being a learner driver according to the old school of thought!!!!!!

**Tank** · 9th October 2007, 09:10

I guess with bikes if you have a full licence and are riding along at 100kph, or going 2up with a L plate - you could get pulled over because of it.

If the cop thinks that's wasting his time you *may* cop a ticket.

With a car (other than the 10pm curfew) the road rules are the same - so there is less chance of being stopped.

C