Sensing bullshit

[crshbndct]

another one: we went to the gypsy fair about 2 weeks ago. they were doing palm readings for like $5 and my mrs made me get one. the psychic told me that children would be coming into my life soon. which was really amazing as my missus had a baby 4 days later.

of course the psychic had seen me walking around holding hands with a 9.25 month pregnant woman just minutes before, so that might have tipped her off.

[007XX]

Hah, shows what you know! I actually am a very powerful psychic but I can only read surface thoughts. Using my cunning ruse above I tricked you into thinking about your VISA card which enabled me to get account name, number, expiry date, PIN and the little 4-digit verification code on the back.

Just used that info to buy a brand new BMW F650GS and ordered $7000 worth of aftermarket goodies for it through on-line shopping sites.

Yes, I'm a fraud but my bag is Identity Theft!

BWAhahahahahahaha

Good luck with that, young Wolf. Can you in fact confirm that I even have a Visa card? And that it's not already maxed out?

Ok Wolf, what colour are my undies then, eh?

[MSTRS:Me]

Ok Wolf, what colour are my undies then, eh?

You sure that you should call that string you wear, 'undies' ?

[007XX]

You sure that you should call that string you wear, 'undies' ?

Beeeeppp (wrong answer)Don't quit your day job smartypants....

[Wolf]

Beeeeppp (wrong answer)Don't quit your day job smartypants....

Yeah, we all know she's "going commando"

[007XX]

Yeah, we all know she's "going commando"

Bwaahahaha...bling sent!

Nuff said, as you were!

[vifferman]

I see you guys doubt psychics. There is also a thread on Diana's inquest here on KB. Now you may not know that Diana was a great believer in psychics. Funnily enough not one of them bothered to tell her it may be a little dangerous getting into a speeding merc with a drugged driver in a Paris tunnel, although I believe one of her regular psychics had a "bad feeling" something was going to happen that day when asked afterwards. None of Diana's psychics have come up with the evidence of Murder either as far as I am aware or did the Royal family put out contracts on them as well to shut them up.

Wow.
Or not.

Why have they got an inquest into her death? I've got it sorted already.
I looked at the photos published in The Harold this week - the last photos taken just a few seconds before she died! Wowowow!
They show her turning around in her seat, looking out the back window to see if the paparazzio are following the car. The other photo shows the Mercedes after the crash - mostly intact (well, at least the passenger 'cell' is), apart from where it's been cut open.

Hmmm....

Pretty obvious really: the silly bitch was twisted around in her seat, had no seat belt on, and didn't survive a crash which would've left only bruising if she had been sitting properly and/or had her belt on.

Boo hoo.

Case closed.

[Mekk]

The behind the scenes episode had a hardcore sceptic such as yourself sit in with them the whole time. In the end he didnt have an arguement to stand on.
You dont have to believe it, by why try to pull it apart? I know so many people who watch it, then blurb on about it the next day trying to say how fake it is. DONT WATCH IT THEN!

So this hardcore skeptic was chosen by them, was he? How about an independent review from a panel of scientists that expose these kind of people all the time?

I feel it necessary to pull it apart to give other people insight into these charlatans. If not that, at least have them question them.

Too much bollocks can be dangerous. There are still people in Papa New Guinea going on witch hunts because they believe people like this are genuine.

[Mekk]

Lots of people do, they are called magicians and few modern magicians admit to the fact that what they are doing is merely an illusion.

I don't agree with that. There are many who openly acknowledge themselves as illusionists. This is why Yuri Gellar (the spoon bending fraud) is under so much fire from magicians all over the world for claiming he has psychic powers when really he's just doing simple sleight of hand illusions.

[bert_is_evil]

So this hardcore skeptic was chosen by them, was he?

He was yes. He was also chosen by the New Zealand police, as one of their lead criminal phsycological profilers, hence his scepticism.

[bert_is_evil]

I don't agree with that. There are many who openly acknowledge themselves as illusionists. This is why Yuri Gellar (the spoon bending fraud) is under so much fire from magicians all over the world for claiming he has psychic powers when really he's just doing simple sleight of hand illusions.

I was referring more to the guys doing the money making rounds currently, like Chriss Angel and David Blaine - neither acknowledge that they are "illusionists"

[Mekk]

He was yes. He was also chosen by the New Zealand police, as one of their lead criminal phsycological profilers, hence his scepticism.

I'm not sure how being a psychological profiler means you understand how psychics work. He may have been a skeptic, but I'm talking about a review from a panel that know the tricks these people employ.

It could have been a nuclear physicist, but what good is that when they're not skilled in this area?

I was referring more to the guys doing the money making rounds currently, like Chriss Angel and David Blaine - neither acknowledge that they are "illusionists"

I don't know about that. They don't claim they have supernatural powers like Gellar either. It is generally accepted that they're magicians/illusionists.

[bert_is_evil]

I don't know about that. They don't claim they have supernatural powers like Gellar either. It is generally accepted that they're magicians/illusionists.

They do claim that what they are doing is real and yes it's generally accepted that they're illusionists and no one really makes a big deal about the fact that what they're doing is an illusion

The phsycic's claim that what they are doing is real, just like these guys do, it's generally beleived by the majority of people that it's not (just like these guys), so why does everyone make a big deal of it?

Like I said either way it's entertaining, and if it's not then why watch it/care?

[Mekk]

Because people are still paying $160 an hour for this bullshit when most of us make an honest living.

There was a psychic in the US that got done for fraud after possessing $250,000 odd in materials from someone because they told them all these things were causing her bad karma.

People go to them for life advice on very important decisions that could make or break them. They believe them and can fuck themselves up completely.

They pretend to communicate with dead loved ones. In the case of Silvia Browne, she tells people who have missing children that they're dead. They then turn up completely fine a few weeks later. The opposite has happened as well, they are told their loved ones are fine and then turn up in a body bag. They prey on people who don't know any better and are at the end of their tethers.

I would expect to be held accountable if I convinced someone that conventional physics don't apply and you can survive a fall from a skyscraper as long as you believe...

They should be tried and done for fraud, every last one of them.

[Wolf]

The opposite has happened as well, they are told their loved ones are fine and then turn up in a body bag.

And protests of "ah, but they were fine at the time I did the reading" don't wash when the coroner's report reveals they've been dead for over a month...