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    A man's/father's point

    why is it, that the man of the relationship is the one who is screwed the most?


    the courts, the people, etc allways (well almost, and aint that the truth) decide against the man?


    WHY?



    its only a very few who dont deserve, so why the fuck do the rest of us get punished?
    i wouldnt want to be caught dead in the same grave as me.

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    Simple,as a mate found out with his ex re custody of their girl,"if you go for custody I'll say you molested her in the shower",like others and myself who hasn't had their kids in the shower or bath with them,mine were about 12 mths old and teaching them that the shower, and water from a shower doesn't scare them when they get to 4 or 5 and you only have a shub instead of a bath.

    What doesn't seem to register is when she split I changed bank accounts,my wages went to that one,mind you left enough in joint one,i.e didn't clean it out,just took usual amount needed and left rest.Silly woman didn;t think of doing that herself and was pissed I did,only thing her lawyer admitted they couldn't touch was my income,took everything else though,damn hate legal aide at times,she had it I didn't.Still I hold my head up with pride knowing I didn't screw her (pun)with seperation settlement,even let her keep the clothes dryer so kids could have dry clothes when wet,still to recieve that item,shit outa luck as she bought new one.

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    agreed! The courts went her way and she told them I was going to beat them up.

    Never touched her or the kids but the threat was enough for them to believe it.

    Then she made it VERY hard for me to see my own son!

    SO I gave up- harest thing ay father has to do!
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    Never give up.....

    The Law is better now as you don't have to go to Court to have shared custody, however, the issues raised above can still occur.

    Mother is still seen as top of pyramid, however even if say for eg she has the affair which seems wrong when to me that is betraying your kids.

    But you should never give up............sorry the hardest thing to do is to fight

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    When I left my ex I just walked away. Left her everything. She was a useless mum to my kids. Her family after I left took 2 of the kids off her and then started to say that I was violent, that I was a drunk, and that I was no good to MY kids when I have been none of those....Fuckin shits...and I have been everything a good dad can be. I just got to a stage where I couldnt take any more shit from a lazy no good mad cow!

    four years on I am married, have a good wife, and am still a good dad, yet they still lie to my kids!


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    Quote Originally Posted by canarlee View Post
    why is it, that the man of the relationship is the one who is screwed the most?


    the courts, the people, etc allways (well almost, and aint that the truth) decide against the man?


    WHY?



    its only a very few who dont deserve, so why the fuck do the rest of us get punished?
    Because - as you should know - all men are bastards!

    But yeah seriously, the system is twisted. If you're a man around small kids you're almost suspected of being a sick fuck who's going to subject them to physical abuse. Back in Denmark we had an epidemic of guys being accused of abuse while working in daycare centres by paranoid parents. A lot of crying wolf and several guys who got their lives tainted with false accusations. And their female co-workers were all stressing the importance of having male colleagues to avoid getting the kids into a matriarchal mindset.

    However, sometimes it seems to me that some men have been a bit too quick to find a partner to have kids with. I mean it's quite a big step from being in love and wanting to start a family to getting an ugly divorce with your ex-partner commiting perjury during the custody case. I think I might have found the right one - still *no* hurry about getting kids though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post

    But you should never give up............sorry the hardest thing to do is to fight
    Agreed, you should never give up. Put in the effort now, even when it seems futile........when your kid(s) get older, they will realise that you never gave up, and that your ex was a bitch! Good luck.
    Like a (female) friend (who works in the legal bit) says..............when it comes to custody etc women are evil, but men are dumb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by puddy View Post
    Agreed, you should never give up. Put in the effort now, even when it seems futile........when your kid(s) get older, they will realise that you never gave up, and that your ex was a bitch! Good luck.
    Like a (female) friend (who works in the legal bit) says..............when it comes to custody etc women are evil, but men are dumb!
    You are right...hear so many stories of guys giving up......lucky I am not in the dumb category mainly cause I have my faith and I am a Londoner with passion and heaps of focus and when it came to Nats there was no way I was giving up on her...still the ex will not talk to me because I stood up to her but that is her problem......I forgive her still though so some may say that makes me dumb.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by canarlee View Post
    why is it, that the man of the relationship is the one who is screwed the most?
    It's because men are to keen to screw women in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    It's because men are to keen to screw women in the first place.
    There is some truth in that Sir.

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    lee, eventually, the kids will get old enough to draw their own conclusions, and in many cases they will return to their fathers side.
    women are for the most part total bitches. many will do all they can to make the male look bad, as has been shown by the fathers in this thread, whether the need is justfied or not.
    sometimes i hate females, and feel ashamed to be one, for the way many act. i just wish i knew why they do it, but i dont.
    i feel for the dads that have their kids taken off them... many make better parents than the woman does.

    mikkel... yep. these days its suspected pervert before proven guilty. and i admit, even ive been dragged along with the thought. sucks.
    maybe its cos my "brother" was told to look after me for a night and attempted to rape me?
    today, i still suspect he will try something with another child [he was 14, i was 9] and my biggest worry is my neice.
    im suspect of every thing when it comes to that girl, and thats the biggest reason id love to take custody of her if i could. cos i KNOW she wont come to harm in that respect with me, but i fear she will with him.

    lee... i wish i had answers for you, but i dont. women can be bitches, and no one can explain why. sorry dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
    maybe its cos my "brother" was told to look after me for a night and attempted to rape me?
    Now that's rather harsh! Seems like he's a bad dodgy it does. I hope you'll be able to get your neice out of his reach.

    Can't help but remember how I around that age was kinda hoping for my cute nanny to do something like that to me though...
    Because let's face it - I think toaster hit the nail spot on.
    If we could stop thinking with our dicks for a couple of seconds everynow and againg we might discover those little clues that would tell us that our current lover would probably not be the best choice for a wife/mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunhuntin View Post
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    lee... i wish i had answers for you, but i dont. women can be bitches, and no one can explain why. sorry dude.

    Because they can, and because as males we were born with a dick we are therefore, all oppressors and rapists. Our opinions do not matter as according to popular belief we think with the lesser of our brains.

    We are not nuturing and loving, we are incapable of feeling or expressing our emotions and we only know the basic colours on a colour wheel. Our shopping skills are basic in that we tend only to get what we need rather than buying two items the same because they are 25% off full price.

    Shall I continue?

    No, I've said enough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by canarlee View Post
    why is it, that the man of the relationship is the one who is screwed the most?


    the courts, the people, etc allways (well almost, and aint that the truth) decide against the man?


    WHY?



    its only a very few who dont deserve, so why the fuck do the rest of us get punished?
    It's because we live in "Amazonia". All our "leaders" masquerade as women and our men behave like them. John.

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    I'm not saying it's THE cause, but I see classic sex role stereotyping at play here. Men = provider, Mother = nurturer.

    Is ths law simply enforcing those roles?

    I personally can't see how a child can grow up with a "normal" view of the world without a mother and a father showing them how to act, and respect those of the opposite gender. (and I am reluctant to use "normal" but couldn't find anything better... sorry). It's probably the one hangup I have with same sex relationships too. I'm just not sure how that works. Kids need a he and a she in their lives. Biological attachment or otherwise is a secondary issue (not too far distant however).

    That said, I need my kids in my life. Someone posted earlier they had to give up their son. That would just destroy me. I can't fathom that... I really can't.

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