Dial 111 AND GET A TAXI ????

[scumdog]

Take it easy guys remember if the police aren't there we all are in big trouble, give them a break the job never will win a prize but who could do it day in and out like they do? Lighten up

I think you have summed it up well, "day in and day out", that is what grinds us down eh guys? ANYBODY can handle it once or twice in a lifetime or maybe more times in a short burst but the long haul burns you out and you can never say 'no, not my turn this time, somebody else can do it"

[badlieutenant]

I hate they way our media goes to such pains to provide a veiw point on everything. How bout they just give us the facts, delivered in a manner, where possible, that implies nothing but a given set of circumstances. If we keep getting a popular perspective force feed to us then well become american.
As for the 111 call, who knows what they talked about on the phone ? anyone seen a transcript ? maybe she came across as really sorta drunk but not under immediate threat at that point ?
I know its hard not to bite but if you want a thread to stop just dont post (I kinda think some of the retorts are bloody hillarious, so im encouraging it)

*pop corn please*

[scumdog]

Just read my comments in this thread in the cold hard light of day - and I was quite restrained and eloquent considering my moon-shine intake!!!

I wonder if guys like pipeman are REALLY that unthinking or if they are more of a troll than we give them credit for? :spudwhat:

[Bonez]

As for the 111 call, who knows what they talked about on the phone ? anyone seen a transcript ? maybe she came across as really sorta drunk but not under immediate threat at that point ?
I know its hard not to bite but if you want a thread to stop just dont post (I kinda think some of the retorts are bloody hillarious, so im encouraging it)

*pop corn please*

I was thinking along the same lines. Maybe she just wanted the local copper to give her a lift home.

[pipeman]

It has been very interesting reading some of these replies. One of my points was that the that way police are used. ok we have limited resoucres when it comes to crime but where we point these resoucres is the problem. The direction and focus is wrong. Its was stated on a media show just lately that 75% of police time was to spent traffic infringments so how much % does this leave for real crime? do the maths. Now i no you will say this a load of shit because that the kind of people are.(SHOULD HAVE READ THE THREAD PROPERLY) I'm not pointing the finger at the police but there mandate given to them by the powers to be. How many fo you out there have been burgaled and rang the police and told yes there be unit send to you and then waited three days to turn up? But when comes to a small infringment like your thing like doing 56km in a 50km zone you are made to feel like a real criminal? Whats with this. I beleif the focus must change from the genral puplic to the grass roots of crime only this way we can gain a better country and gain more respect for the people in blue (our civil servants).
It's just a shame a life could have been saved. But people are bizzy passing the buck like "what about the taxi and why didn't he turn up" Lets not loose the focus here people so I end this and say my heart and feeling go out to this family and hope we can catch the real criminal in this.

[Blakamin]

Lets not loose the focus here people so I end this and say my heart and feeling go out to this family and hope we can catch the real criminal in this.

Thats something i agree with...100%

[Stevo]

It has been very interesting reading some of these replies. One of my points was that the that way police are used. ok we have limited resoucres when it comes to crime but where we point these resoucres is the problem. The direction and focus is wrong. Its was stated on a media show just lately that 75% of police time was to spent traffic infringments so how much % does this leave for real crime? do the maths. Now i no you will say this a load of shit because that the kind of people are.(SHOULD HAVE READ THE THREAD PROPERLY) I'm not pointing the finger at the police but there mandate given to them by the powers to be. How many fo you out there have been burgaled and rang the police and told yes there be unit send to you and then waited three days to turn up? But when comes to a small infringment like your thing like doing 56km in a 50km zone you are made to feel like a real criminal? Whats with this. I beleif the focus must change from the genral puplic to the grass roots of crime only this way we can gain a better country and gain more respect for the people in blue (our civil servants).
It's just a shame a life could have been saved. But people are bizzy passing the buck like "what about the taxi and why didn't he turn up" Lets not loose the focus here people so I end this and say my heart and feeling go out to this family and hope we can catch the real criminal in this.

I believe this was covered in the forum the other day by one of the police folk. Cost of helping this girl out = police time. Cost to country long term when she turns up dead = Nothing.

Cost of issuing traffic tickets = police time. Cost saving to NZ govt/ACC by reducing severely injured people on NZ roads = Massive. If ya don't like it run for parliament.

This one incident will go away but for the govt etc the burden of road toll etc is always there. Doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to figure out how the world works. It is sad but true. Definitely not FAIR either, but not much in life is..................... the rich will always get richer and the poor be poorer........

[spudchucka]

It has been very interesting reading some of these replies. One of my points was that the that way police are used. ok we have limited resoucres when it comes to crime but where we point these resoucres is the problem.

Search the forum, this stuff has been covered soooo many times before.

Its was stated on a media show just lately that 75% of police time was to spent traffic infringments so how much % does this leave for real crime? do the maths. Now i no you will say this a load of shit because that the kind of people are

A big lesson for you would be to not believe everything the media states. The traffic side of the NZ police accounts for about 25% of the annual budget.

But when comes to a small infringment like your thing like doing 56km in a 50km zone you are made to feel like a real criminal?

Firstly, nobody gets a ticket for 56 in a 50 zone unless they are a known criminal or a total twat. Secondly if you feel like a criminal when you speed, look inside yourself and ask yourself why.

I beleif the focus must change from the genral puplic to the grass roots of crime only this way we can gain a better country and gain more respect for the people in blue (our civil servants).

I agree that more resources should be thrown at locking away criminals. But as soon as the pressure comes off the driving public they will be back to driving however they like and at whatever speeds they like. So the current rigid enforcement is not likely to ever change.

It's just a shame a life could have been saved. But people are bizzy passing the buck like "what about the taxi and why didn't he turn up" Lets not loose the focus here people so I end this and say my heart and feeling go out to this family and hope we can catch the real criminal in this.

At least you can show empathy towards the family.

They aren't passing the buck, they are maintaining an open mind until more facts are known. There are a lot of possible scenarios that when fully known will have a large impact on how this entire matter is perceived by all NZ's. If once all the facts are known, it is shown that somebody stuffed up and a life was lost directly because of that stuff up THEN go ahead and hang them if thats what will make you feel better.

Moral of the story Pipeman is don't believe everything the media presents and keep your mouth shut untill ALL the facts are known.

[Storm]

Congratulations to all those who serve in the blue uniform. Buggered if I'd want to put up with a lot of the lowlife scum that thier jobs force them to be involved with. They work long hours and as has been previously stated, in utterly shite conditions, and do they get thanks for it ? Hell no. But when something goes wrong, the line of idiots lining up to have a go stretches round the block. They are just people same as us, no more, no less. And I cant honestly say I've ever had to come home from work and figure out how to get parts of what used to be someones son/daughter/father/mother etc off my clothes. It really %^&*s me off when people just jump on the bandwagon for a quick shit flinging

*Takes deep breath and steps down off soapbox*

[Lou Girardin]

I can't even bring myself to reply to the self-serving justifications spewing from certain keyboards. This one is down there with the cops letting an injured woman die while they 'contained' an offender. Send a cab, indeed.
Sickening.

[spudchucka]

I can't even bring myself to reply to the self-serving justifications spewing from certain keyboards. This one is down there with the cops letting an injured woman die while they 'contained' an offender. Send a cab, indeed.
Sickening.

You're the most ignorant and self serving pointless excuse of a human being I have ever had the pleasure of telling to get fucked.

GET FUCKED!!!!!

[Bonez]

Folk seem to be a bit sensitive today. Is the weather, daylight savings, alignment of the planets, alians, Basil Brush, Miss Piggy or something else?

[Kickaha]

I can't even bring myself to reply to the self-serving justifications spewing from certain keyboards. This one is down there with the cops letting an injured woman die while they 'contained' an offender. Send a cab, indeed.
Sickening.

And what self serving justifications would they be Lou?

I take it you're privy to more information regarding sending the cab than the rest of us mere mortals and have all the facts regarding this incident,how about sharing them with the rest of us or are you just going to carry on your usual bleating and whinging where ever you're able to try and show the police in unfavourable terms

[marty]

and slagging off the cops on here gets you SO many brownie points lou. you're a big brave man. really - you are

[spudchucka]

And what self serving justifications would they be Lou?

I take it you're privy to more information regarding sending the cab than the rest of us mere mortals and have all the facts regarding this incident,how about sharing them with the rest of us or are you just going to carry on your usual bleating and whinging where ever you're able to try and show the police in unfavourable terms

Lou obviously has a direct line to god, how else would he know so much that nobody else knows? To be able to make such insightful judgements based on the limited information that has been made public could only done with divine sight.







Then again maybe he is simply an over opinionated oxygen thief with an axe to grind.