Parking at Uni should be easier and safer!

[Mom]

mmm nursing diploma... nurses.... mmmmm (slap!!)

You grubby thang LOL go and look at the thread I have posted as an alternative to taking this one off topic even more

[Toaster]

its so funny you say that (and i completely agree btw) because either way the generation y'ers are stuffed.....

Yes, it won't be easy. I would also hate to be faced with the prospect of saving for a first home. The "ideal" that kiwis all want to own their own home one days is truly dead... we have caught up with the rest of the developed world. The times I have been overseas in Europe etc showed me how so many can only ever hope to rent as home over there are ridiculously expensive.

When I was 17 my folks couldn't afford to put another son through uni, so I left home and did military service, then eventually put myself through uni (Otago - great place... many a couch burned). I have fought and scraped and worked hard to get where I am today and it was never ever easy.

What are you majoring in and what would you like to do? KB is a good place for advice - even for career hunting.

[bomma]

Apparently based on what I saw yesterday, (or was it today) around a post box (outside the Gym) I think.

ummm how many bikes do you think there are at uni?? (honestly)

I am totally serious, Parallel parking on the side of the road is dangerous, but I dont hear every cage driver bitchin about it (Other than me cos I suck at it).

agree on cages dont bitch about it and i also suck at parallel parking cars ...but
1) cars are a lot more noticable than bikes
2) get hit in a car, minor concussion?? get hit on a bike.....nuff said
3) bigger bikes = harder to park (well thats what i think anyway) ive nearly been hit by a car while trying to parallel park. small slot, got half in before i realised it was wrong angle, my bike was half on the road and half in and the cage thought i was gonna keep going back so hit the gas.....lucky for me i saw him coming and had the angle to accelerate away from him to hear screeching brakes behind me

As you might have gathered from my comment above, working in the city I frequently (read Daily) walk past the uni and have seen the bikes. Honestly I dont see there is that big of an issue with safety (I'll give you the security one although I still dont know how they get away with it with all those people). There are other options, but I feel confident that the majority wont use them because they may have to pay or walk a little further.

*shrug* guess having had to be here for the better part of 3 years now ive seen and experienced differently to you....safety not only from theives and cages either...nearly everyday for a year id come back to my bike to find a new scratch or ding somewhere so i stayed near the parks one day....guy on scooter came down symonds, backed in and hit a bike, goes forward corrects himself and backs in and hits the bike again, happened once more and i voiced my concern....he shrugged went down further and deja vu.....

[bomma]

Yes, it won't be easy. I would also hate to be faced with the prospect of saving for a first home. The "ideal" that kiwis all want to own their own home one days is truly dead... we have caught up with the rest of the developed world. The times I have been overseas in Europe etc showed me how so many can only ever hope to rent as home over there are ridiculously expensive.

When I was 17 my folks couldn't afford to put another son through uni, so I left home and did military service, then eventually put myself through uni (Otago - great place... many a couch burned). I have fought and scraped and worked hard to get where I am today and it was never ever easy.

What are you majoring in and what would you like to do? KB is a good place for advice - even for career hunting.

shucks man i have it a bit easier than you....(understatement of the year)!!!!

right now im majoring in management and psychology leading into human resources.....thinking about changing psychology into sport and health....post-grad is an option for me but dont think i could handle another year of uni added on to the year+ i have left......career-wise i honestly have no clue where i want to go (like every other person my age) isnt an excuse but is the truth

good to see that this thread is veering so precariously

[Luckylegs]

ummm how many bikes do you think there are at uni?? (honestly)

Fookin loads, I'll count em tomorrow while walking past, as long as ya dont think Im stealing em, cos I count slow :wink: I was just pointing out that I had seen one rider do this, not that it was a solution for everybody. Its like the Brown CBR which Ive seen on the other side of the road parked behind a tree and then surrounded by other two wheeled vehicular machines. Ive often wondered whether this was intentional or just bad luck

....guy on scooter came down symonds, backed in and hit a bike, goes forward corrects himself and backs in and hits the bike again, happened once more and i voiced my concern....he shrugged went down further and deja vu.....

Excellent... does this mean we can agree to disagree, join forces and agree to beat up on the scooter riders

[klyong82]

ohhhh more pie.....

[Toaster]

shucks man i have it a bit easier than you....(understatement of the year)!!!!

right now im majoring in management and psychology leading into human resources.....thinking about changing psychology into sport and health....post-grad is an option for me but dont think i could handle another year of uni added on to the year+ i have left......career-wise i honestly have no clue where i want to go (like every other person my age) isnt an excuse but is the truth

good to see that this thread is veering so precariously

Don't worry about setting yourself into one thing... I have done lots of things over the years.

I guess we should say something about parking.... um..... we need more parking.

[bomma]

Fookin loads, I'll count em tomorrow while walking past, as long as ya dont think Im stealing em, cos I count slow :wink: I was just pointing out that I had seen one rider do this, not that it was a solution for everybody. Its like the Brown CBR which Ive seen on the other side of the road parked behind a tree and then surrounded by other two wheeled vehicular machines. Ive often wondered whether this was intentional or just bad luck

sorry i was just being a dick...along the same lines as the brown cbr, we were thinking of having maybe a buddy system, like chain 2 bikes together (obviously somebody who you know) just to make it safer...also want to put a proposal forward to maybe try and get a set railing on the sides of symonds so we have something to chain the bikes to

Excellent... does this mean we can agree to disagree, join forces and agree to beat up on the scooter riders

lol shit yea!! but one problem, we cant let em know that the club had anything to do with it (more than half the club consists of scooter riders)

Don't worry about setting yourself into one thing... I have done lots of things over the years.

hehe no doubt

I guess we should say something about parking.... um..... we need more parking.

yep open up alfred st again!!! rally the troops!!!

[Luckylegs]

yep open up alfred st again!!! rally the troops!!!

Now that I cant argue with !!!

I had been thinking about the bar along symonds street when it was last raised. Id agree that would be a good simple solution except that presumably when the parking spaces you use, are used for cars on the weekend that could be a problem for passenger doors....

...Thus proving my point that Parallel parking is stoopid !

[Squiggles]

Bloody 'ell this thread veered off last page, so much for the auckland uni smc group discussing parking, looked more like bashing of students then bashing of everyone else...

Would be nice to see some way around the problems sportsbike riders have squeezing in on a busy day, but blowed if i can think of a way, cant ride along the footpath and drop in (well, ya can at the moment) but not if we get a bar for security...

Seal on the engineering side could do with repairs, last time i tried to park the gn there on main stand it rolled back down to the footpath and only then did the stand actually touch the ground could fit a few more bikes in there if it we didnt need to fit around those spots

[xwhatsit]

I am totally serious, Parallel parking on the side of the road is dangerous, but I dont hear every cage driver bitchin about it (Other than me cos I suck at it).

As you might have gathered from my comment above, working in the city I frequently (read Daily) walk past the uni and have seen the bikes. Honestly I dont see there is that big of an issue with safety (I'll give you the security one although I still dont know how they get away with it with all those people). There are other options, but I feel confident that the majority wont use them because they may have to pay or walk a little further.

I understand where you're coming from -- that's why I don't buy into the `security' issue, as although it sucks bad, it is free parking, so I don't see why they have an obligation to provide security for us. A steel bar would be cheap and nice.

The main beef, however, is that there used to be one of the best parking situations at uni of anywhere; Alfred St was open to us to park all down the side. Not sure how much capacity there was, but it was a quiet street, wide area to get in and out of, safe access from any direction (i.e. not pulling a U-turn across four lanes of mad rush-hour cagers). Then for some silly reason they decided to take that away from us, and leave the space empty. For a long time they just left it as that, until there were a few complaints and they opened up a little bit extra on Symonds St, right down the bottom before the traffic lights (the most dangerous bit).

As Ixion stated in his letter to the council, there is actually less parking available to motorcyclists now than there was a few decades ago. Despite the rising use of motorcycles, they decided to remove safe, effective parking. That same area for parking remains unused -- but we're not allowed to use it. That's why we're a bit pissed off.

We pay (well, student loans pay, but we pay eventually) sizeable amounts of money to attend a university where you expect to have decent facilities. It's supposed to be a world class university, and as part of that I expect not only to be able to take a shit on campus and not have to trek across to the public loos, but other basic facilities as well. Some of these are not being fulfilled.

[motorbyclist]

which is exactly the point!

we may be bitching students, but the bloody councul removed the safest, most secure parking we could ask for without paying, and now that space just sits there empty. it's not like it isn't there, and it won't cost them a cent to open it back up - so stop bitching about our bitching already!

i can see why they made alfred st bus access only, why they didn't make it a bus lane and instead closed it to bikes for parking is beyond me

[motorbyclist]

Students should stop sucking on the tit of society and eat meat!

what a fine example of ignorance

( or something along those lines)

churr for the red.. most people attending Uni are drop outs who think the world owes them a crust.. you sound like one of 'them'...

to the contrary, to get into engineering you need to have gotten atleast a merit average in 7th form calculus and physics, and then there's only 550 spots per year.

the world doesn't owe me a crust, but i do get irate when people rave on about things without considering the implications of what they're saying. you my friend went to the uni bike club area, full of students, and told us we're a drain on society. while for some students that IS true, for most i believe they are in the long run doing you a favour.


just like how all non-aucklanders opposed paying for aucklands roads: auckland pays for all the rest of the country (which has alot more road per person) so stop your whinging.

we just want our parking back!

i don't believe i'm whinning about anything.. and no you don't need those grades; i was a qualified Engineer.. or rather still am not practising as i manage engineers for a living.... and didnt step one foot in a Uni.

im also keen to know how they're doing me a favour...??!!! ahahhaha

well lucky for you that 20 years ago that was possible, but today's industry seems to be pretty convinced that you need a good understanding of what you're looking at before you take up the job. it's hard enough finding a decent summer job that fulfils my degree's work requirements as it is.

and auckland does the rest of the nation a favour when it pays it's taxes. population density means that each aucklander consumes less state resources, say roading, while they can produce more tax income via all the big business that centres around the city.
just like students. we're an investment the govt makes and if they didn't make a return they wouldn't be doing it.

i'll paste this on the thread as it might as well go up, i dislike pissing around with PMs for an argument

[HungusMaximist]

Can we all just STFU and sort out the parking problem?

Nish or whoever is doing the petition/papers just let us know when you sort it all out so I can just sign it and then gate crash the council's meeting.

There's also this strike thing being brewed up by a few fellow KB's on taking over Auckland's car parks with motorcycles during peak thour (lunch times, mornings and weekends).

[Squiggles]

I'm getting in touch with the council over a few things now, and for a start, if anyone recieves a ticket for not having their warrant displayed when it is could they pm me... Same goes for tickets for parking behind the trees (not on footpath)

They're going to have a look at the seal on the engineering side and our request for a bar to lock down to has been noted