KB Mentor programme

**Hitcher** · 15th January 2008, 08:44

Originally Posted by Ixion

Mr Frosty got arseholed out of KB.

What is this? National Promulgate Myths & Legends Day or something?

Nothing of the sort happened.

**YellowDog** · 15th January 2008, 08:45

Excellent idea.

Lets home some of the potential future accidents will be avoided.

**Jorja** · 15th January 2008, 08:54

Originally Posted by Hitcher

What is this? National Promulgate Myths & Legends Day or something?

Nothing of the sort happened.

With all respect Hitcher. Were you listening in on the conversation between the two parties concerned? Were you privvy to the e mails sent or the private message sent. If not then I'd suggest You are not qualified to answer that particular statement with anything more than your personal opinion.
If you were then somebody has broken the very rules they themselves imposed.

**YellowDog** · 15th January 2008, 09:02

Originally Posted by DMNTD

Wow...all I want to be able to do is pass on what knowledge I've learnt over the years to people that are requiring it.
I'm not qualified but I'm more than "qualified"...take from it as you will.

Don't give a flying fark whether it's "backed" by some KB Mentor scheme or not...I will still offer my help.

If they ain't paying for it, then there is no problem. Official couses by qualified trainers can teach a lot of good practice and safety however on the road, we don't all follow the rules and there is lots we have all picked up by trial and error and sometimes accident. Passing this on and potentially saving future accidents and deaths can only be a good thing - IMO

**nodrog:Me** · 15th January 2008, 10:02

Originally Posted by YellowDog

...Official couses by qualified trainers can teach a lot of good practice and safety......

exactly, there are already courses out there for people who want official training, advanced traing etc.

sometimes all a newbie wants is sombody with a bit of experience to go for a ride with, so they feel less nervous than they would be by themselves, and dont have to worry about getting lost, fixing a puncture by themselves etc.

as far as im concerned a mentor is sombody in your area that is willing to go on rides, answer your questions no matter how stupid, and give their feedback on your riding technique etc. in my opinion, anybody who is willing to give up their free time to do this is not exactly going to be some knob who is going to be stupid enough to give out dangerous / etc advice to a learner rider.

i think the mentor programme should be a network of people in your area willing to offer their advice / help / time / etc, which people can contact if they wish. people are generally big and ugly enough to decide if they need "official training" or not.

**YellowDog** · 16th January 2008, 06:34

Yup. Well put.

It's the dos and the donts in of particular situations that an official course cannot and is not authorised to answer.

**James Deuce** · 16th January 2008, 06:48

Originally Posted by Jorja

With all respect Hitcher. Were you listening in on the conversation between the two parties concerned? Were you privvy to the e mails sent or the private message sent. If not then I'd suggest You are not qualified to answer that particular statement with anything more than your personal opinion.
If you were then somebody has broken the very rules they themselves imposed.

Yeah, but he's back posting isn't he, so he wasn't.

I don't how you can still push the myth that he was kicked off KB when he's been posting.

**discotex** · 17th January 2008, 20:39

Originally Posted by Blackbird

That is part of our proposal! More details in due course. A few things to work through first.

Sounds good. I can't wait. Will be great if it's clear who is mentoring which skills and where they're located to make it easier to find a mentor.

**chanceyy** · 17th January 2008, 21:01

Originally Posted by nodrog

exactly, there are already courses out there for people who want official training, advanced traing etc.

sometimes all a newbie wants is sombody with a bit of experience to go for a ride with, so they feel less nervous than they would be by themselves, and dont have to worry about getting lost, fixing a puncture by themselves etc.

as far as im concerned a mentor is sombody in your area that is willing to go on rides, answer your questions no matter how stupid, and give their feedback on your riding technique etc. in my opinion, anybody who is willing to give up their free time to do this is not exactly going to be some knob who is going to be stupid enough to give out dangerous / etc advice to a learner rider.

i think the mentor programme should be a network of people in your area willing to offer their advice / help / time / etc, which people can contact if they wish. people are generally big and ugly enough to decide if they need "official training" or not.

Since I am a newbie rider .. & done that nervous ride totally get wot Nodrog is saying here & support his comments on why newbies look for mentors ..

**FROSTY:Me** · 18th January 2008, 10:42

Jumping into this little discussion. I have major reservations about an "official" Kiwibiker mentor program.
Definitely say "johns" mentor program run through Kiwibiker.
But an official program will have lots of potential fallout for the owner of the site.
The concept is stunning mind you

**Virago** · 18th January 2008, 10:51

Originally Posted by FROSTY

...an official program will have lots of potential fallout for the owner of the site...

That's one of the reasons it's being worked on, and it raises many issues.

We appreciate everyone's patience while the issues are being explored.

Thanks Frosty.

**FROSTY:Me** · 18th January 2008, 10:59

MEANWHILE-- Jorja has been in my ear to run some more basic training at the swanson training area.
Once the little darlings are BACK AT SCHOOL

I'm happy to do so.
Might even be able to con the stranger into helping out.
I'm not really keen on large groups so itll be like 4 students and 2 innstructors at a time.

IT WILL NOT BE ANYTHING OFFICIAL. JUST A COUPLE OF GUYS HAPPY TO PASS ON OUR TINY BIT OF EXPERIENCE

**ArcherWC** · 18th January 2008, 12:26

Originally Posted by FROSTY

MEANWHILE-- Jorja has been in my ear to run some more basic training at the swanson training area.
Once the little darlings are BACK AT SCHOOL

I'm happy to do so.
Might even be able to con the stranger into helping out.
I'm not really keen on large groups so itll be like 4 students and 2 innstructors at a time.

IT WILL NOT BE ANYTHING OFFICIAL. JUST A COUPLE OF GUYS HAPPY TO PASS ON OUR TINY BIT OF EXPERIENCE

You going to teach people how to crash Frosty?????