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    Global Warming - us, or <sinister background music> something else?

    In summary, if you haven't go time to read this story in full:
    1) global warming is happening;
    2) it's cyclical....not human.

    Feck, imagine what the greenies will say when we slip into the next cooling cycle? "Burn more coal/buy more SUVs/buy more cows (delete as appropriate)", "China is the earth's saviour".

    Believe what ya like...I happen to think that this guy is at least as credible as all of the other so called experts on this subject.

    Foremost Weather Scientist Mocks Gore Film
    A pioneer in seasonal hurricane forecasts says the theory former Vice President Al Gore advanced to help him share a Nobel Peace Prize was "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works. "A pioneer in seasonal hurricane forecasts says the theory former Vice President Al Gore advanced to help him share a Nobel Peace Prize was "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works. "Dr. William Gray, one of the world's foremost meteorologists, last week told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth. "We're brainwashing our children," said Dr. Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. "They're going to the Gore movie ["An Inconvenient Truth"] and being fed all this. It's ridiculous. "We have to quickly find a way to change the world's consciousness about exactly what we're facing," he added. Mr. Gore and the United Nations climate panel shared the award. His film has also won several awards, including an Academy Award. Dr. Gray, however, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place. That same cycle, he said, meant a period of cooling would begin soon and last for several years. "We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was" Dr Gray said. Alternate periods of global warming and cooling have appeared throughout the history of measured weather patterns, Dr. Gray said, citing statistics showing there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperatures, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed. "The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures," he said. "It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."(c) 2007 Newsroom.

    Make sure your kids get both sides of the story before making up their minds.
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    If you look at the last few recipients of said prize its obvious its become a crock of shite,remember the dictator and that silly bitch that supposedly watched her brother starve to death but then he turned up alive and very well thank you in New York.
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    Where's the option for "it is another method for the UN to tax the crap out of everyone and make vast amounts of profit for themselves"?
    Power games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Where's the option for "it is another method for the UN to tax the crap out of everyone and make vast amounts of profit for themselves"?
    Power games.
    "Scary monster" - "We'll save you - give us money and power to fix it".
    Oh goody, the old conspiracy theory once again. Yep, there is a cabal of wealthy secretive men (no women allowed) who dream up scary scenarios just to make money from the proles.

    In fact they are so powerful they can persuade thousands of scientists in places as diverse as CSIRO, CRIs, and NIWA to falsify data and come up with fake global warming research.

    Mine eyes have been opened....

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    I'm dubious. Remember the millenium bug and how many computer consultant's made a shitload ?

    If ice ages are cyclic, isn't it logical that warming is also ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    I'm dubious. Remember the millenium bug and how many computer consultant's made a shitload ?

    If ice ages are cyclic, isn't it logical that warming is also ?

    Ssssh,

    Dont buck the trend. You may finish up being burnt at the stake for heresy in you make further observations of this ilk.

    One must just swallow all we are told because the people in white coats getting big grants do know better than us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    I'm dubious. Remember the millenium bug and how many computer consultant's made a shitload ?

    If ice ages are cyclic, isn't it logical that warming is also ?
    Apparently not in Invercargill.
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    the internet is not a big truck, its a seris of tubes!
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    There was a post on here awhile back that had a link to a documentary called The Great Global Warming Swindle.

    The link dont seem to be working anymore. But if you get the chance I recommend you view it. I wish it was as well known as an inconvenient truth, at least its made by Scientists.

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    Don't forget tax-free carbon credit trading between the multinationals and governments
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    with all this carbon you'd think carbon fiber prices would drop, but noooooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullitt View Post
    There was a post on here awhile back that had a link to a documentary called The Great Global Warming Swindle.

    The link dont seem to be working anymore. But if you get the chance I recommend you view it. I wish it was as well known as an inconvenient truth, at least its made by Scientists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Where's the option for "it is another method for the UN to tax the crap out of everyone and make vast amounts of profit for themselves"?
    Power games.
    "Scary monster" - "We'll save you - give us money and power to fix it".
    Ah, yes...well spotted. That - of course - is the hidden agenda part of this whole bullcrap sensation to be foisted upon us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxman View Post
    Ah, yes...well spotted. That - of course - is the hidden agenda part of this whole bullcrap sensation to be foisted upon us.
    Australia is the most sensible of the nations. NOT signing up to the kyoto taxation scheme, BUT taking active measures to become "greener and friendlier to the environment".
    China + USA =

    NZ = like a dog being thrown a bone, instant reaction that the UN knew would respond to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    I'm dubious. Remember the millenium bug and how many computer consultant's made a shitload ?

    If ice ages are cyclic, isn't it logical that warming is also ?
    We started working on Y2k at Telecom in 1992. I didn't make "shitloads". It WAS an issue, but people did their job plus little bits here and there to make sure that irritating things didn't happen to people.

    People forget things like Barclays losing nearly 2 billion pounds in Credit Card transactions. Barclays did nothing at all about Y2K and everything from their call centres to their electronic transactions stopped working until well engineered and tested patches were applied to their credit card systems within 48 hours of that date change.

    I sound like a stuck record, but it is irritating that people continue to parrot the myth that because "nothing" happened during Y2K then there obviously wasn't a problem. Geeks worked their arses off for the better part of a decade testing and fixing. The testing didn't uncover a lot of problems, but we fixed or developed solutions that were designed to be transparent and shared.

    For those who still give a hoot, the Y2k ramifications are still with us for 2008. The year 2000 wasn't supposed to have been a leap year. Online software modifications were required as early as 1996 for some Cobol based systems as a result and that leap year issue flows through until 2008 for some long forgotten reason.

    But I agree with your reasoning about cyclic cooling and warming phases.
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