The white man's burden

[Finn]

To be honest, I'm starting to suspect that it has something to do with the rhythmic wet slapping sounds coming from behind my bedroom door most evenings.

That must be torture for the poor chap.

[Manxman]

Here's one for the racists and bigots here, and there are many.

The title comes from Rudyard Kipling, a racist of the first order, any comments?:
snip..........

...ok, so now you've got everyone talking....what do you think about it, oh cerebral one?

[Manxman]

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[candor]

Our brains are the same structure wise and chemical operation wise.

Our genes are mostly the same, apart maybe from Basques who I think have some traces of ?is it cro magnum man, still hanging about, FWIW.

IF there are IQ differences as measured by Western methodology the explanation is simple and obvious.

Culture. If you are taught to value deductive reasoning and reflection and toying with ideas as a child, and filling your head with facts is encouraged you are far more likely to ace IQ tests.

If you are taught not to question, not to value or try and come up with new ideas eg communist china, or not to aspire to be a cleverer dick than your "working class" community so then you don't study or thirst for knowledge, the brain will atrophy.

New connections between brain cells are built by use of the organ. Disuse results in fewer connections. Some cultures value brain power more so they promote it and have perfected techniques to make the best of what we've all got.

Physios rehabilitating people with brain injury or people who must learn to walk again know this focus on wiring new pathways works, and lack of effort not.

That scientist is incredibly dumb, especially as a geneticist to think any differences are down to race.

Now if we were talking dogs I do believe in interspecies intelligence differences that can be fair betted on based on looks. But humans are just not as poles apart in their make up as say your astute german shepherds and (sorry to offend anyone) stupid but cheery staffys, for arguments sakes.

And this science program on last night (about genetic markers for Afro American slave descendents seeking to trace their tribe thru DNA)
explained that we all have tens of thousands of grand / great grand / great great grand parents. In other words we must all be related, because the odds of not being have to be low as if we've got that many ancestor inputs.

[98tls]

New connections between brain cells are built by use of the organ.

Oh god how ive triedsadly no,not even a phone number in the morning.

[idleidolidyll]

...ok, so now you've got everyone talking....what do you think about it, oh cerebral one?

it was merely a ploy

i knew it would help identify the racists here for myself and everyone else interested

an unqualified success given the rush to post in just one day

[Usarka]

an unqualified success given the rush to post in just one day

can you point out the racist posts please?

All i can see is:

• obvious satire / humour
• blatant anti-racism opinions
• a few willing to debate the idea on a scientific basis from both sides

You say your post was made to generate a reaction - who are you to judge others racist when they may have done the same?

Labelling people racist because they dare talk about subjects containing race issues is ludicrous PC dribble. The one or two posts in this whole thread that are a little derogatory are from people who take the piss on any and every subject.

The most racist of all the posts in this thread is the original - yours.

[Bass]

The dictionary defines racism as differentiation to disadvantage on the basis of race.

Therefore, if I say that "using the same data, Japanese are brighter than us",
it's not racist - right?

[Marmoot]

""He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence could be found within a decade.""

If the genes are not found yet, what is currently making some people so smart?

[Usarka]

The other co-founder of the double helix DNA structure was francis crick, who was high on LSD when he made the discovery! http://www.miqel.com/entheogens/fran...k_dna_lsd.html

who said drugs are bad, m'kay?

[Manxman]

it was merely a ploy

i knew it would help identify the racists here for myself and everyone else interested

an unqualified success given the rush to post in just one day

...yeah ok...but like I said - what do you think about the article that you posted originally?

[jonbuoy]

Why is it considered racist to point out possible genetic differences between races? How many white 100m sprinters/heavy weight boxers do you see in proffesional sports?

[Scouse]

Why is it considered racist to point out possible genetic differences between races? How many white 100m sprinters/heavy weight boxers do you see in proffesional sports?

Hey man thats racist while were on that subject how many white men (except for Police officers) do you see in court up on rape charges

[tri boy]

Every human I have met is raciest in their own sweet way. Yes I bet even you Idle......
Shit you vouch for KTMs, that guarantees that your dumb as dog shit.

[pritch]

I haven't read the whole thread please pardon me if someone already said any of this.

The eminent gentleman originally quoted has no doubt got sound evidence to make his statements. He probably has the results of innumerable IQ tests, most of which were devised by middle class white people in affluent countries.

How would he do, or indeed how would we fare, if we had to undergo a test prepared by African tribesmen around things with which they are familiar?

One suspects we might fail to impress...

Now since people are being accused of being bigots I thought I should see precisely what we were talking about.

Interestingly my dictionary defines the word bigot thus,
"A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his own."

Well Bugga!

The original poster should not have to look too far to find one of those.