Scooters - a bit gay?

[deanohit]

Well, after extensive research, give you these, some very nice non gay girls on scooters:

[deanohit]

And now the very gay looking pics:

[UberRhys]

Oh dear!
You have hit upon the very crux of the biker/scooter conflict.
A scooter may well be "just another way of getting from A to B" but to most real bikers that attitude is totally alien.
Proper motorcycles are for themselves, for the feeling, the sport, the thrill, etc etc, not mere transport.
The best scooterists see this also, and value their scoots as more than just one step up from a bus.
Sadly, I think you have revealed what camp you are in!

I have been resisting entering into this debate, but then I read the above and couldn't have put it any better. To me it is more than a mode of transport to get from A-B. It is the feeling you get when your on open roads and twisties. The feeling of freedom and the thrill of all of the senses having to work together to make the right decisions.

The best scooterists see this also, and value their scoots as more than just one step up from a bus.

[ZeroIndex]

I like the standard Vespa advert pictures for the new Vespa GTS250... they look nice

[MisterD]

Oh dear!
You have hit upon the very crux of the biker/scooter conflict.
A scooter may well be "just another way of getting from A to B" but to most real bikers that attitude is totally alien.
Proper motorcycles are for themselves, for the feeling, the sport, the thrill, etc etc, not mere transport.
The best scooterists see this also, and value their scoots as more than just one step up from a bus.
Sadly, I think you have revealed what camp you are in!

Nope, I think you've just nailed one of the patronising attitudes bikers have towards scooters...

With the money I've spent on my Lammy making it go faster I could have bought a bike that would be twice as fast straight out of the box...but that would just be boring.

I don't want to turn up at a ride-out to find three bikes exactly like mine, and I don't want to have to dress up like a tube of toothpaste to ride it either...

[MisterD]

And now the very gay looking pics:

By the way, fact fans, picture 2 is the original "Exile" chopped Lambretta - the first custom chopper built by Russell (Exile Cycles) Mitchell.

[Steam]

Nope, I think you've just nailed one of the patronising attitudes bikers have towards scooters...
With the money I've spent on my Lammy making it go faster I could have bought a bike that would be twice as fast straight out of the box...but that would just be boring.
I don't want to turn up at a ride-out to find three bikes exactly like mine, and I don't want to have to dress up like a tube of toothpaste to ride it either...

Did you read the bit where I said "The best scooterists see this also, and value their scoots as more than just one step up from a bus."

[MisterD]

Did you read the bit where I said "The best scooterists see this also, and value their scoots as more than just one step up from a bus."

Yep. That's patronising too - would you talk about the best (insert ethnic origin of choice)...

There are scooterists and there are commuters.

[Steam]

Goddamn scooter riders! I have changed my mind and hate you all!

Nah, P/T

[moT]

notice in all the pics there are either girls (very lovely ones btw) and gay guys rideing them. I think this implys that only girls or gay guys are rideing them and if you (straight) are unfortunate enough to ride one you will probably be assumed by the general public as a lovely girl or a gay guy.. if people want to make scooters seem less gay they should probably advertise it more with straight guys on it with girls. like the ones zero index posted above.. but really to all you straight scooter riders you should really get a motorbike to save you this dilemma but sexy lady scooter riders feel free to continue scootering

[Luckylegs]

Yep. That's patronising too - would you talk about the best (insert ethnic origin of choice)...

There are scooterists and there are commuters.

Ahh, no... there's scooterists and.........

[ZeroIndex]

notice in all the pics there are either girls (very lovely ones btw) and gay guys rideing them. I think this implys that only girls or gay guys are rideing them and if you (straight) are unfortunate enough to ride one you will probably be assumed by the general public as a lovely girl or a gay guy.. if people want to make scooters seem less gay they should probably advertise it more with straight guys on it with girls. like the ones zero index posted above.. but really to all you straight scooter riders you should really get a motorbike to save you this dilemma but sexy lady scooter riders feel free to continue scootering

Thanks Tom...

[Luckylegs]

notice in all the pics there are either girls (very lovely ones btw) and gay guys rideing them. I think this implys that only girls or gay guys are rideing them and if you (straight) are unfortunate enough to ride one you will probably be assumed by the general public as a lovely girl or a gay guy.. if people want to make scooters seem less gay they should probably advertise it more with straight guys on it with girls. like the ones zero index posted above.. but really to all you straight scooter riders you should really get a motorbike to save you this dilemma but sexy lady scooter riders feel free to continue scootering

Actually just to confuse the issue, ZeroIndex has recently taken some shots (in another thread) of a Gay man on a ER6n

[Machiavelli]

Hey all,

I ride a motorbike but I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to drive scooters. Sure, I chose not to ride a scooter precisely because of how it looked it, they just don't do it for me. But i'm not going to bag somebody else if they want to ride it.
I *wouldn't* say that people should ride scooters with any less gear though... getting smacked over by a car isn't going to hurt any less if you're on a scooter.

I'm mostly posting here because this attitude stirred a response:

You choose to ride a geared motorcycle, so stay in the non-scooter part of KiwiBiker...

you dont even ride a motorcycle or scooter, so GET OFF KIWIBIKER!
there are plenty of other sites around for you to post on

We're all bikers of sorts, we're all distinct from cagers - scooters and motorbike alike. Yes we all choose to ride for different reasons and our motorbike or scooter each carry their own distinct styles, abilities, and properties - but I wouldn't say this means that scooter riders can't view or post elsewhere other than here and that this area is a biker-free-zone!

Secondly, I know at least one person on KB who has a car in their 'motorbike' property area (and what a nice motorbike it is). KB is a community, why close doors and put up walls where there doesn't need to be any. People should feel free to browse KB and post whether they own a motorbike, scooter, or are simply interested (heck, we even have a wannabe sub-forum, suggesting this is an official position).

[ZeroIndex]

Actually just to confuse the issue, ZeroIndex has recently taken some shots (in another thread) of a Gay man on a ER6n

you are so right... but... i was just the photographer... there are however some disturbing pictures of sidewinder and carver on sidewinders gallery/attachments, but i'd rather leave the url out of this thread, as it is gay enough...