Pilot Road 2 for The Concours 14?

[Gremlin]

The KTM Supermoto liked the Angels... I didn't like the lack of life, but they performed very well in all road and weather conditions.

[crash99]

The KTM Supermoto liked the Angels... I didn't like the lack of life, but they performed very well in all road and weather conditions.

"Lack of life" is probably the best description I've heard Gremlin. True they worked, its just they didnt feel like they worked. I think there are much better tyres out there I guess is my view.

[BigOne]

As mentioned in another thread, I am disappointed with the performance of my front PR2. After nearly 11,000km the rear is still OK and looking good for a few more 1,000km yet, but the front is getting pretty shagged -- the first time ever I've had a matched pair where the front has given in before its mate behind. The front only has a few hundred km on it. The right-hand side is badly chiseled. And I am scrupulous about pressures.

I had already made the decision to go back to Storms at the next change. This latest occurrence merely reinforces that.

if one side of your front PR2 is badly chiseled, I'd bet there's something wrong with your wheel alignment?
I have fitted about 3 sets of PR2s on my GSX1400 so far, and the rears last 12-14k, and the front still has about 2mm at that point. But I always change them as a pair. I'll be trying the PR3s next, depending on reviews as to how well thos rain sipes last...........

[pritch]

I liked the Angels but didn't take them into the last quarter of their life as I sold the S4R.

One assumes rightly or otherwise, that with the advent of the PR3 the PR2 is consigned to the bargain bin of history?

[banditrider]

Hey Meanie you need to start a "Pilot Road 3 for The Concours 14" thread...

Got a quote (yet to have another ring around) today and it'll probably cost about $30 more (for the set) to go to 3's rather than 2's...

Just checked on the Concours forum (which appears to have moved) and they're talking a tyre life of around 8,000 miles which compares pretty good with what I/we seem to get from the 2's. The Yanks tyres do seem to last longer than ours generally (some huge claims abound for the 2's, eg > 10,000 miles) so I guess I'm still a bit skeptical.

I'll see what the other quotes come in at and maybe I'll be a guinea pig again - they just better not disappoint me like the Angels did...

[Gremlin]

I have a PR2 front on the CB900 that's just passed 22k... wouldn't have believed it until I checked the receipts. Doesn't spend much time in the country though, almost all of it was commuting in and around town. Rear should get 15-20k at a guess, currently at 10k and looking quite new.

[banditrider]

I have a PR2 front on the CB900 that's just passed 22k... wouldn't have believed it until I checked the receipts. Doesn't spend much time in the country though, almost all of it was commuting in and around town. Rear should get 15-20k at a guess, currently at 10k and looking quite new.

12k is the magic number for a PR2 on the Connie - both ends.

[Gremlin]

12k is the magic number for a PR2 on the Connie - both ends.

Put your bike on a diet I imagine the weight (plus luggage and pillions) would play a large factor, along with torque etc. Hornet is light, but always has a top box with stuff in it. Torque isn't large and delivery is extremely smooth.

Once the PR3 is on the BMW (odd sizing) it will give some more variety to the numbers, as it's a heavy bike with decent torque. Down south I ran out a Scorpion Trail set in about 5000km... extremely disappointing mileage, but it was heavily loaded the entire trip.

[banditrider]

Put your bike on a diet I imagine the weight (plus luggage and pillions) would play a large factor, along with torque etc. Hornet is light, but always has a top box with stuff in it. Torque isn't large and delivery is extremely smooth.

Very happy with 12k - I get better than others on lighter bikes...helps that I'm a nana...

Once the PR3 is on the BMW (odd sizing) it will give some more variety to the numbers, as it's a heavy bike with decent torque. Down south I ran out a Scorpion Trail set in about 5000km... extremely disappointing mileage, but it was heavily loaded the entire trip.

Didn't want to hear that - just put a Scorpion on the front of the DL...

[NZsarge]

Hey Meanie you need to start a "Pilot Road 3 for The Concours 14" thread...

Got a quote (yet to have another ring around) today and it'll probably cost about $30 more (for the set) to go to 3's rather than 2's...

Just checked on the Concours forum (which appears to have moved) and they're talking a tyre life of around 8,000 miles which compares pretty good with what I/we seem to get from the 2's. The Yanks tyres do seem to last longer than ours generally (some huge claims abound for the 2's, eg > 10,000 miles) so I guess I'm still a bit skeptical.

I'll see what the other quotes come in at and maybe I'll be a guinea pig again - they just better not disappoint me like the Angels did...

I think for $30 more the 3's are worth a crack, from what Dog's has been posting they seem mint. I honestly can't you you getting any worse milage out of them than the 2's.

[Gremlin]

Didn't want to hear that - just put a Scorpion on the front of the DL...

Which Scorpion? They're actually a range, like Pilots.

I ran a lot of Scorpion Syncs on my KTM, about 6500-8500km on every set. Beautiful tyres, but a bit soft for longevity. Pirelli seems to be expensive, great performance, but don't last too long.

Trails replace the Syncs, more sizes etc... BMW didn't fair too well, both tyres squaring off at 5000km, but a lot of weight and demanding riding.

[banditrider]

Which Scorpion? They're actually a range, like Pilots.

I ran a lot of Scorpion Syncs on my KTM, about 6500-8500km on every set. Beautiful tyres, but a bit soft for longevity. Pirelli seems to be expensive, great performance, but don't last too long.

Trails replace the Syncs, more sizes etc... BMW didn't fair too well, both tyres squaring off at 5000km, but a lot of weight and demanding riding.

It's a trail. It replaced what I think was the original Bridgestone at 15k so I think the Strom might be reasonably easy on fronts...

[banditrider]

I think for $30 more the 3's are worth a crack, from what Dog's has been posting they seem mint. I honestly can't you you getting any worse milage out of them than the 2's.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Just got to do a ring around and see if there's a better deal out there...

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Not been on the 3's for very long and have had many sets of 2's so here is my view.

2's were predictable neutral and lasted well. They gave great feedback in both wet and dry and gave a heavy bike that 'lighter' feel.

The 3's are the same, predictable, light and neutral with the same degree of feedback. I can not comment on longevity but I don't see why they would be any worse than the 2's. I'm riding a heavier bike now than I did when using the 2's and feel as confident in 'throwing' this bike around on 3's as I did the lighter bike.

As Banditrider has stated in the USofA many are raving about them in terms of wet grip and longevity

The promotion says they give greater grip/confidence in the wet over the 2's. I cant say I have noticed a difference yet. I thought the 2's were excellent in the wet and wouldn't really change my riding style much if it was wet other than increasing braking distances and avoiding the shiny bits.

I would recommend them to anyone looking for excellent all round performance and neutral, confident handling with the very real likelihood of good mileage.

KG

[Ricardo S]

replaced the original dunlop tyres on the drz for a set of PR3's and if there's such a thing as too much grip that is it - wet and dry