"Speed police can't hide"

[Kickaha]

and it will help to shut the whingers up too.

Would you like to place a small wager on that?

They'll just find something else to bitch about.

[sAsLEX]

Key point: Police vehicles or officers' uniforms may not be hidden. All speed measuring devices are to be employed in an overt manner. Drivers not exceeding these limits should not be ticketed unless their speed poses a risk to public safety.

Just FYI

I know i slowed down when I was flashed by the cop on the way back on sun, thing is by slowing down it greatly affected my concentration as dawdling along at 80kmh on the open road is just plain boring, after about 15 mins I had to stop for a break to recharge my slowly falling asleep mind.

[scumdog]

DON'T GET ME GOING!! They give me a job and then tell me I have to do it with one hand tied behind my back!! - do you guys that speed have big lights flashing and flags flying to let the Police know they're coming?

This is not a school-yard people!! 'pax' and 'nibs' don't work!! It's lives we are dealing with.

Why should there be any quarter given to those that break the rules when they 'see' a cop but go like hell when they don't?

BTW I've had a couple of rums - and Mrs SD showed me how to move my message to this thread from the one I originally posted on ( I knew there was a reason I married her!!)

[MikeL]

I reckon its a good move. An overt presence is best as a deterant and it will help to shut the whingers up too.

So does this mean that the whingers who complain about unreasonable or illogical police tactics might actually, sometimes, have a point? Or is shutting them up just an irrelevant spin-off? Is it ever possible to admit that you were wrong?

All rhetorical questions, btw...

[spudchucka]

Would you like to place a small wager on that?

They'll just find something else to bitch about.

I did say "help to shut them up", nothing other than a gag or a rope around their necks will do the job on many of them.

[spudchucka]

So does this mean that the whingers who complain about unreasonable or illogical police tactics might actually, sometimes, have a point? Or is shutting them up just an irrelevant spin-off? Is it ever possible to admit that you were wrong?

All rhetorical questions, btw...

Firstly, I don't think I've ever been overly outspoken on the issue of hiding in bushes etc. To me its a non-issue but I can see how it pisses folks off, good ridance to it.

Secondly, I'm not saying they don't have a point. What I'm saying is there are two sides to every coin and from the day I first visited this web site to see what it was all about I found an unbelievable one sided coin being tossed around by people who have little or no first hand knowledge of what the were bitching about.

If my arguements appear one sided then thats probably because I'm countering some pretty one sided views from the opposite camp.

Thirdly, I have no problem admitting if I'm clearly wrong about something.

[scumdog]

As a hunter I find it goes against the grain by NOT 'hiding', I mean would a duck hunter sit in the midle of a paddock dressed in red & yellow and expect to get many ducks?
If you are not speeding etc you do not have a worry, eh? if you ARE then it is more likely to slow you down if you thought an 'UNSEEN' cop could be nearby! :sly:

[MikeL]

If you are not speeding etc you do not have a worry, eh? if you ARE then it is more likely to slow you down if you thought an 'UNSEEN' cop could be nearby! :sly:

Well, on the one hand we have the theory that an overt presence is the best deterrent. On the other hand we have the theory that the possibility of an unseen cop is the best deterrent. Which is it to be?

C'mon guys, get your act together. Or just admit that it's smoke and mirrors, political expediency, whatever fashionable flavour of the month will advance some ambitious bureaucrat's career...

But don't be surprised if we remain cynical and a tad bitter. After all, we're paying for it.

[Skyryder]

As a hunter I find it goes against the grain by NOT 'hiding', I mean would a duck hunter sit in the midle of a paddock dressed in red & yellow and expect to get many ducks?
If you are not speeding etc you do not have a worry, eh? if you ARE then it is more likely to slow you down if you thought an 'UNSEEN' cop could be nearby! :sly:

We all know that on many occssions there are times when it is critical to keep focused on the road ahead. Hell we all ride bikes here and travelling at 100k's or there abouts and there are occsions that my attention stays on the road ahead. That's my priority not the speedo. I check the speedo when I consider the road and traffic allow me to do this safely. I recall reading somewhere there is a two second delay from the time you refocus on the speedo and then back on the road. In those two seconds if you misread the road conditions or the unexpected happens..................no need to go down that road if you will excuse the pun. Keep the undercover cops for serious crime and if you want to prevent speeding Be Seen.

Skyryder

[StoneChucker]

This is how I feel. If you are speeding, then if you get caught, tough. It doesn't matter how you were caught. Whether it was by a "overt" marked police car in the middle of the road, by a camouflaged (sp.?) cop lying under a bush or by a spotter plane overhead with a stopwatch (hahaha - previous thread), you were still speeding. I do however feel that having all cars and police being overt will in general slow down the cars/bikes on the road. When I see a police presence, I slow down, and I'm never, thats never exceeding 100km/h in my car, and not usually on my bike (I'm not perfect). It's just a natural reaction, slow down.

I personally don't have a problem with the fines, I never had one, but if I did, they can use the money for whatever they like. Now, don't get me wrong, I can't afford it, and would be cursing for months, but in the end, it IS "your" own doing.

And I can wholehartedly understand what Scumdog is saying about not being able to hide. The duck hunting analogy is spot on. I'm not btw, trying to favour either side, I'm just a neutral road user, who HAS read the road code

[MikeL]

The duck hunting analogy is spot on.

Perhaps more so than you intended. We are sitting ducks, indeed. It's all a game. Some pay the price for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[What?]

Well, on the one hand we have the theory that an overt presence is the best deterrent. On the other hand we have the theory that the possibility of an unseen cop is the best deterrent. Which is it to be?

If unseen cops are a good deterent, how is it they catch so many "offenders"?




Hmmmm, might change my handle to Fisherman.

[rodgerd]

(Older drivers)

All part of the general malaise that views driving as a right, not as a privilege and serious responsibility.:spudwhat:

The bit that made me laugh was a quote about how resposible older drivers were, how they would hand in their licenses if they were concerned about being fit to drive, et al. Of course. That's why they were complaining about flunking mandatory re-testing, because they recognised they weren't fit to drive...

[rodgerd]

But don't be surprised if we remain cynical and a tad bitter. After all, we're paying for it.

The only people who are paying for it are the ones who keep breaking the law. Cynical? Pig-headed, more like.

[rodgerd]

I personally don't have a problem with the fines, I never had one, but if I did, they can use the money for whatever they like. Now, don't get me wrong, I can't afford it, and would be cursing for months, but in the end, it IS "your" own doing.

*applause*