Most mileage done on a Chinese GN?

**ducatilover** · 28th October 2007, 22:33

my second bike was a gn

it ate a chain that i kept well oiled etc
it ate the swing arm bushes...
every possible light....
gearbox started slipping out of gear....
pegs got worn down on the bottom quite alot

all this happend within three monts of ownership and 10000km.

shit bikes. even my honda has taken a bigger beating and raping

**Ragingrob** · 29th October 2007, 07:42

Sounds like they can be shit from the start, but if they make it past 10,000km then they'll just keep going if well looked after

**HTFU** · 29th October 2007, 12:00

but if they make it past 10,000km then they'll just keep going if well looked after.

Yeah, but still waiting for someone to post one with higher ks than yours. 35000km still the highest. Maybe they do more ks but no one has ever kept one long enough to find out.

**Ragingrob** · 29th October 2007, 13:11

Originally Posted by twinkle

gargantua wins, 80,000ks

though he is having problems with the clutch, i guess that is major repair thinking about it...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...t=gn250+clutch

I think you've missed this one!

**HTFU** · 29th October 2007, 13:13

I think you've missed this one!

2002 model. We had a lapse in importing them here from mid 90s (Japan) till 2004 (China). Not sure about Singapore which is where he comes from but I am guessing it means his bike is not chinese so doesn't count. To take out the title your bike would have to be a 2004 model or newer.

**twinkle** · 29th October 2007, 16:06

time will tell us how good the motors on the new gn's are, at the moment we only have dodgy rumours to go on.
I mean, shit, i have a blown honda engine and a mate of mine has another blown honda engine. All honda's must have crap engines! oh teh noes!
If somebody buys a bike and then rides it around its whole life close to or beyond its max rpm the engine life will be shorter, duh! I wonder how many squids have tried to clock the rev needle, blown it up and then said to everybody "oh, i was just riding it along and the damn thing blew up".

**HTFU** · 29th October 2007, 18:24

time will tell us how good the motors on the new gn's are,

Thats why I started the thread. Time is up, I want to know how good the motors on the the new GNs are.

3 Years is more than enough time for some GN riders to clock up some Ks. I did over 20000km in a year on my 2006 model, we know they are not an issue around the 10000 mark and perhaps up to 35000 but what happens beyond that.

If a few people post figures around the 40000-50000 mark then we will have an idea that the engines on the new ones are like most other bikes. You would then have to say the engine life of a Chinese GN is what you would expect of an air cooled single.

If we get some posts saying rings etc had to be done at X amount of Ks then people can start to make an informed decision about buying one (especially second hand).

Makes me laugh when people try and come in with what they believe to be a matter of fact post to enlighten us all (like the previous one).
If we can post jokes and other non bike on this forum then surely such an exercise in research as done in this biker thread, discussing peoples experiences with a widely used learner/commuter bike has to be useful.

**twinkle** · 29th October 2007, 19:56

I reckon you might have to wait a couple of more years to get a decent number of bikes that have made it that far then.
The volty and the gz250 share the same engine, most likely from the same factory(maybe even a factory that has been making these engines for a long time?), there could be one of those around that has done a few more miles.

It makes me laugh when people use the words "research done in this thread" on a forum. We're all full of bullshit.

If you really want to find out how good they are track down every gn sold in 2004 and see how far they've managed to go.

**HTFU** · 29th October 2007, 20:08

If you really want to find out how good they are track down every gn sold in 2004 and see how far they've managed to go.

Like I said thats the point of the forum. You will be surprised when one googles a topic such as GN250 that Kiwibiker is often in the top few pages. It was the research tool I used to buy my GN when I started looking for my first bike. Same again with the GPX, heap of good people on here giving good information from their experience with the bikes in question. Priceless and normally painless

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We're all full of bullshit.

Its easy to pick those ones out

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The volty and the gz250 share the same engine, most likely from the same factory

Again a while since imported here

. Factory in Japan most likely.

**twinkle** · 29th October 2007, 21:40

My only point is that you want to find out how long these engines are going to last right? compared to what? the old gn's? but the problem is you can't objectively compare the two. to all other motorbike engines? Even more of a pain in the arse to compare.
And how do you know the engines aren't still coming from japan for these things anyway?

As for mine, 30,000ish, and the valves have finally settled in. When it dies i'll let you know

**HTFU** · 30th October 2007, 12:21

Excellent, Twinkles GN has done 30000km - Took a while but we got there in the end.

how do you know the engines aren't still coming from japan for these things anyway?

A bit of research. There are about 3 factories in China that Suzuki has invested technology into.

but the problem is you can't objectively compare the two. to all other motorbike engines? Even more of a pain in the arse to compare.

If 10 people post GNs with Ks around 30000km etc then that gives us an idea that you can expect at least that amount, quite useful info really. Starts to put to rest the quality issue of the engine. If we get a heap of posts stating motor shat itself at 10000km etc also very useful.

**paddyrider** · 30th October 2007, 18:07

I have had my GN250 10 mts now and I have done 27000k's. I am presently doing 1200 k's per week. It is going ok. I got one service done by the agent and that was the last they done. After 1500k's the rocker arm was bent also the bike kept blowing bulbs. After they fixed the rocker they still charged 200 for the service and that included $35 for bulbs. They scratched the bike. The side cover came off on my way home and they would not take responsability. I bought the workshop manual and now I do the service myself. I put a smaller back sprocket on and now I can kruse at 110-120 below 6000 rpm. I managed to get it up to 145k's. No there was no tailwind. I probably farted a few times but I doubt that would have helped. I passed a harley last week man they must be a waste of money. When my bike grows up it is going to be yamaha or kawasaki or a honda, we are still deciding, its not the bikes that are influencing my decision its the greasy sales persons.

Ps got my first speed ticket today 82 in a 70 zone.

**sunhuntin** · 30th October 2007, 19:21

Originally Posted by paddyrider

I have had my GN250 10 mts now and I have done 27000k's. I am presently doing 1200 k's per week. It is going ok. I got one service done by the agent and that was the last they done. After 1500k's the rocker arm was bent also the bike kept blowing bulbs. After they fixed the rocker they still charged 200 for the service and that included $35 for bulbs. They scratched the bike. The side cover came off on my way home and they would not take responsability. I bought the workshop manual and now I do the service myself. I put a smaller back sprocket on and now I can kruse at 110-120 below 6000 rpm. I managed to get it up to 145k's. No there was no tailwind. I probably farted a few times but I doubt that would have helped. I passed a harley last week man they must be a waste of money. When my bike grows up it is going to be yamaha or kawasaki or a honda, we are still deciding, its not the bikes that are influencing my decision its the greasy sales persons.

Ps got my first speed ticket today 82 in a 70 zone.

that sounds about right... it would be easier for them to right a list of what they do cover than what they dont.

did you replace the sidecover? drill 2 holes in both covers [one each side] and cable tie them on. thats what i did, and so have many others. i had my mates side cover come off at about 100k... he was in front. not fun having a chunk of plastic flying towards your face.

**paddyrider** · 30th October 2007, 20:09

didnt replace it yet $160 is a bit much and 2nd hand about 80. If I sell it one day i might replace. been looking at getting a better 250 that will handle the k's im doing. not sure what yet.

**twinkle** · 31st October 2007, 10:47

Again a while since imported here. Factory in Japan most likely.

But you don't know, you're only guessing. The same factory that made those engines could still be supplying them.

A bit of research. There are about 3 factories in China that Suzuki has invested technology into.

Cool, now we're getting somewhere. So which factory makes the engines? And how do you know? Are all the parts cast, machined and assembled in the same factory or some parts contracted out to other manufacturers?
Which factory assembles the bikes?

If 10 people post GNs with Ks around 30000km etc then that gives us an idea that you can expect at least that amount, quite useful info really. If we get a heap of posts stating motor shat itself at 10000km etc also very useful.

Pretty limited use, since you wouldn't have any way of knowing how the motor was treated for that distance. One guy I met in Tokoroa thought 80ks was thrashing it, another guy I met in auckland thought that 120ks was normal cruising speed for it

(yes with standard gearing).

Starts to put to rest the quality issue of the engine.

Bullshit and jellybeans, unless you know something that you haven't posted.